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Old November 6th 04, 08:20 AM
Janusz Kesik
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Default Diana 2 designers are sure to reach 52:1

The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
Diana 2 is.
Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.

The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.

More to read he http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html

Regards,


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Old November 7th 04, 05:44 AM
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"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
Diana 2 is.


Diana 1 looks to me like a 2/3 scale open-class ship - and very
elegant when the ugly giant wheel is stowed. Unfortunately, the
cockpit also appears to be 2/3 scale and not an easy fit for normal
(i.e. large) American pilots.

It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is
this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design?

Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
guys fit in the thing?

Mike
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Old November 9th 04, 06:42 PM
Janusz Kesik
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Uzytkownik "Mike Stringfellow" napisal w wiadomosci
om...

It sounds like the only mods in Diana 2 were made to the wings - is
this true and is the cockpit unchanged from the earlier design?


I have heard of two versions, just like the Ventus a and b. The best would
be to ask the designer for details.

Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
guys fit in the thing?


Well... faith makes miracles?

Regards,


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Janusz Kesik
Poland

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See Wroclaw (Breslau) in photography,
The XIX Century, the Festung Breslau, and photos taken today.
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Old November 10th 04, 03:14 PM
Chris OCallaghan
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Janusz,

thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.

Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
desirable racer.





"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
Diana 2 is.
Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.

The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.

More to read he http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html

Regards,

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Old November 22nd 04, 05:56 AM
Steve B
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Did I notice that the stick on the Diana was a joy stick on the right
side of the cockpit or was I seeing things?


On 10 Nov 2004 07:14:18 -0800, (Chris
OCallaghan) wrote:

Janusz,

thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.

Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
desirable racer.





"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message ...
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane that
Diana 2 is.
Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud affect
the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive due
to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.

The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.

More to read he
http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html

Regards,


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Old November 22nd 04, 06:55 AM
F.L. Whiteley
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It is.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
Did I notice that the stick on the Diana was a joy stick on the right
side of the cockpit or was I seeing things?


On 10 Nov 2004 07:14:18 -0800, (Chris
OCallaghan) wrote:

Janusz,

thanks for the update. Keep them coming as you get them. I've followed
the Diana's development since the Worlds at Uvalde. I've always been
impressed with the numbers, but have had mixed opinions of the glider
in flight. It strikes me as a glider with "character," one you need to
get to know and coddle a little to get its optimal performance. I
haven't been able to fly one. I simply don't fit. So my opinions are
based on flying with them rather than in 'em. I posted some thoughts
to the group several years ago after the 15m Nats at Uvalde.

Best L/D is an increasingly uninteresting performance measure. Though
breaking 50:1 is noteworthy (and certainly deserves applause), higher
speeds are more important... and with the Diana's very high aspect
ratio, looking at the polar between 80 and 100 knots (typical
interthermal speeds) becomes the test of whether it will be a
desirable racer.





"Janusz Kesik" wrote in message

...
The Diana 2 wings are already made, and the according to its quality

and
profiles, the designers are sure to reach a 52:1 L/D in a 15m sailplane

that
Diana 2 is.
Of course the Diana 2 is being built entirely in Poland which shoud

affect
the price also, as the German products are getting unbearably expensive

due
to Dollar/Euro exchange rate.

The first deliveries are scheduled for Spring 2005.

More to read he
http://www.dianasailplanes.com/racing.html

Regards,




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Old November 22nd 04, 08:56 AM
André Somers
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Mike Stringfellow wrote:

Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
guys fit in the thing?

As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of
_wanting_ to fit") ;-)


André
who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders...
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Old November 23rd 04, 05:31 AM
Tom Seim
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André Somers wrote in message ...
Mike Stringfellow wrote:

Polish men also aren't noted for being particularly small - how do you
guys fit in the thing?

As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter of
_wanting_ to fit") ;-)


André
who's pretty tall and has trouble fitting into a number of gliders...


Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
manufacturers.

Another aspect of the Dianna to carefully checkout is who is qualified
to repair the damn things once they break. The factory is EXTREMELY
protective of any construction details -- as of the last convention
there are no qualified repair depots in the U.S. Personally, I would
defer any purchase of the glider until this glaring deficiency is
rectified.

Tom
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Old November 23rd 04, 02:35 PM
André Somers
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Tom Seim wrote:

As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter
of _wanting_ to fit") ;-)


Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
manufacturers.


Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters,
which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have
flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this
adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a
tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit.
But, did you miss the smiley?

André
who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him

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Old November 24th 04, 06:03 AM
Tom Seim
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André Somers wrote in message ...
Tom Seim wrote:

As we say he "passen is een kwestie van willen" ("to fit is a matter
of _wanting_ to fit") ;-)


Excuse me, but at 6'2" I CANNOT WILL TO BE SMALLER. Your response
reinforces my sense of denial on the part of SOME of the glider
manufacturers.


Well, 6'2" is not that tall, not in my book that is. It's only 1.87meters,
which is considdered average down here. I'm 1.96 (about 6'5"), and I have
flying friends even taller (about 2 m, or over 6'7"). We both use this
adagium. Sure, it does mean you have to be willing to fold yourself into a
tiny cockpit, but there are few gliders that really don't fit.
But, did you miss the smiley?

André
who's Zugvogel IIIb has lots of room for him


You can do all the folding that you please (for 5-6 hours!), but you
still have to close the canopy!

Tom

PS: DON'T buy a glider that you don't fit COMFORTABLY in- YOU'LL BE
SORRRY!!!
 




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