Mounties Electrocute Airline Passenger

On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:

Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
C J Campbell wrote in
news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is
anti-war extremists.

People who are anti war are extremeists?
That isn't even close to what he wrote.



I cut and paste it...


So it's exactly what he wrote.


Bertie


He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said
that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge
difference.


Has he no tongue?


Bertie

Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet. We have been
traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low
priority.

I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I said
that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who
support the war are extremists.

Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not
have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for me
in the coming election.

I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a
poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business. The
party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and
populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have
difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for
example.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-20 18:42:02 -0600, "NW_Pilot"
said:


"Larry Dighera" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:16:21 -0700, "NW_Pilot"
wrote in
:

I am about ready to start walking across the border to get back in because
would be way simpler.

I'm sorry for the abuse you are suffering at the hands of government
minions, but it is ironic that you could probably easily cross the
border on foot!

Not only that, I recently heard that Bush signed an agreement with our
two bordering neighbors to form some sort of trading consortium
similar to the EU and "eliminate" the borders between the US and them!
I haven't researched that yet.




Yea, it's called the North American Union the currency will be the amero
just do a google search on The Amero you will find all sorts of info. Off i
go to the land up north again then on to the EU in another 172 then a diesel
182 to eastern africa. hope to be home by Cousumer Day!

The first place you might want to check for information on the "Amero"
is on Snopes. The "Amero" has been around for years as a fake currency
that appeals to coin collectors.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-20 18:52:13 -0600, "NW_Pilot"
said:


"C J Campbell" wrote in message
news:2007101819243227544-christophercampbell@hotmailcom...
On 2007-10-18 14:16:21 -0700, "NW_Pilot"
said:

I Don't blame the guy that guy for going mad! US Customs or Department Of
Homeland (un)Security held me on 10/14 at that same airport promised to
help
me get another flight if they detained me to long and missed my flight,
after I missed my flight almost 2 hours isolated I knew it was going to
be a
long day answering dumb questions. Asked for some water after two and a
half
hours of sitting I belive the customs agent tried to gave me toilet
water.

Sounds like you need a lawyer.


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor


No I did not drink the water! The Gestapo usually give me sealed bottled
water or poor coffee out of a pot???? All this was beacuse from my Lebanon
trip. They keep telling me they don't have to let me back in to the U.S. the
country I was born!




They are lying. They not only have to let you back into the country,
they cannot hold you against your will. You possibly have a civil suit
for conspiracy to deprive you of your civil rights, but I would also
look at pressing criminal charges against the individuals involved.
Conspiracy, kidnapping, false arrest, and some other possible crimes
come to mind. They are not afraid that you will sue, because the
government pays the settlements. But the government will not serve
their prison terms for them.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-10-20 17:09:56 -0600, "Dan Luke" said:


"Montblack" wrote:

I see no difference between hitting the beaches at Normandy and hitting the
switch for the electric chair - both are necessary in combating
...."evil-doers".

I've never believed that capital punishment is the ultimate crime deterrent.
(Never mind the fact that it's for poor folks; rich murderers can lawyer their
way out of it.)

Ask anyone: most people would rather be put to death than spend the rest of
their lives in prison. I certainly would. I know someone who's done some
hard time; "living hell" doesn't do justice to what he experienced.

It may not be the ultimate crime deterrent, but there is a question of
justice. If life in prison is actually worse than capital punishment,
then it is worse than the crime committed and therefore unjust.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote in
news:2007102118540175249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:

Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
C J Campbell wrote in
news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is
anti-war extremists.

People who are anti war are extremeists?
That isn't even close to what he wrote.



I cut and paste it...


So it's exactly what he wrote.


Bertie


He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said
that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge
difference.


Has he no tongue?


Bertie

Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet.

I have only your word for that, of course.

We have been
traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low
priority.



M, kay.


I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I
said
that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who
support the war are extremists.

Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not
have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for
me
in the coming election.

I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a
poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business.

Ya think?


The
party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and
populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have
difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for
example.


Good for you. And here I was thinking you were all on the back side of
the bell curve.

Well, ya's did vote for bush,. can you blame me?


Bertie

Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a
tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons.

This is a comfort?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

On 2007-10-21 19:34:52 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:

C J Campbell wrote in
news:2007102118540175249-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

On 2007-10-21 03:36:30 -0600, Bertie the Bunyip said:

Matt Whiting wrote in
:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote in news:KqwSi.413$2n4.20122
@news1.epix.net:

Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
C J Campbell wrote in
news:200710181833568930-christophercampbell@hotmailcom:

The only people who have held that water-boarding is torture is
anti-war extremists.

People who are anti war are extremeists?
That isn't even close to what he wrote.



I cut and paste it...


So it's exactly what he wrote.


Bertie


He didn't say that people who are anti-war are extremists. He said
that people that hold a certain view are anti-war extremists. Huge
difference.


Has he no tongue?


Bertie

Unlike you, I actually have a life outside of Usenet.

I have only your word for that, of course.

We have been
traveling the last few days. For me, posting on Usenet is a very low
priority.



M, kay.


I did not say that all people who oppose the war are extremists. I
said
that some people who oppose the war are extremists. Some people who
support the war are extremists.

Personally, I favor peace and, as far as the war in Iraq goes, do not
have a strong view either way. It will not be the deciding issue for
me
in the coming election.

I am pro-business and, to be frank, the Republicans have been doing a
poor job lately of protecting their title as the party of business.

Ya think?

You really have to consider how much it would take to alienate Alan
Greenspan, but they managed it.



The
party seems to have been taken over by tax-and-spend Republicans and
populist social special interests which I find distracting. I have
difficulty supporting a party that promotes scientific ignorance, for
example.


Good for you. And here I was thinking you were all on the back side of
the bell curve.

Well, ya's did vote for bush,. can you blame me?

Yeah, I can as a matter of fact. My views should be well known by now.
Too many people want to pigeonhole people such as me with the Religious
Right, forgetting that the Religious Right historically has tried to
exterminate Mormons and shows every sign of being willing to try it
again. Mitt Romney might be a Mormon, but so is Harry Reid. Who is to
say which one better represents our values?

The trouble is, the Democrats are misreading the whole thing and
reverting to form. They think that disaffection with the Republicans
means an acceptance of traditional Democratic values: pro-labor, big
government, high taxes, etc., plus the Democrats have their own lunatic
fringe with its own special social interests.

If they think they are going to pick up a lot of disaffected
Republicans with an anti-business agenda while remaining soft on crime
and foreign policy they are grossly mistaken. Plus, business people do
not trust the rampant corruption in the Democratic party and the
absolute refusal of the party to police its own people.

One might support libertarianism, but the Libertarian party is anything
but libertarian. Besides, the libertarians that remain among the
Republicans are too often gold bugs who cannot admit that Ayn Rand
might have been wrong about a few things -- gold, for example.

So, I do not see anyone being particularly pro-business right now.
Every candidate seems hung up either on the war in Iraq or on abortion
or building a fence on the border, none of which is critical to
financial growth. Every one of them has expressed trade protectionist
views which range from disturbing to downright alarming. Whatever
happened to "Free trade and free men!" which was the historical battle
cry of the GOP? Who carries that banner today?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Y'know, Chris, I suspect there are dozens of important things we
disagree on, but, over and over on this forum, you inevitably earn my
respect.,

Don

Jay Honeck wrote:
C J Campbell" wrote:
Indeed, if you want to find an 'American' religion, you would have a
tough time finding one that is more 'American' than the Mormons.

This is a comfort?

I presume he merely meant that Mormonism clearly originated within the
geographic and temporal boundaries of the political entity known as the
USA. (Sorry for the fancy way of saying that.)

By that definition Scientology is just as "American".

C J Campbell wrote:
One might support libertarianism, but the Libertarian party is anything
but libertarian.

What, the aliens got to them too!?

"Well that's great, that's just ****in' great man. Now what the **** are we
supposed to do? We're in some real pretty **** now man... That's it man,
game over man, game over! What the **** are we gonna do now? What are we
gonna do?"

Ripley: I say we take off and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the
only way to be sure.
Hudson: ****ing A!
Burke: Hold on one second. This installation has a substantial dollar
value attached to it.
Ripley: They can bill me.
Burke: Okay, look. This is an emotional moment for all of us, okay? I know
that. But let's not make snap judgments, please. This is clearly,
clearly an important species we're dealing with and I don't think
you or I or anybody has the right to arbitrarily exterminate them.
Ripley: Wrong.
Vasquez:Yeah. Watch us.
Hudson: Hey, maybe you haven't been keeping up on current events, but we
just got our asses kicked, pal!

So, I do not see anyone being particularly pro-business right now.

I prefer pro-free-enterprise over pro-business. Already had plenty of pro-
big-business politicos in DC and freedom was getting its ass kicked.

Every candidate seems hung up either on the war in Iraq or on abortion
or building a fence on the border, none of which is critical to
financial growth. Every one of them has expressed trade protectionist
views which range from disturbing to downright alarming. Whatever
happened to "Free trade and free men!" which was the historical battle
cry of the GOP? Who carries that banner today?

Beats me. According to you the powerless party I've been throwing away my
vote on also isn't what I thought it was.