Mounties Electrocute Airline Passenger

"Jim Logajan" wrote in message
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"NW_Pilot" wrote:
All this was beacuse
from my Lebanon trip. They keep telling me they don't have to let me
back in to the U.S. the country I was born!

Heh. I suspect that eventually Canada (or whatever country you were
returning from) might put you on a plane headed back to the U.S. and deny
you reentry to their country for overstaying your visit!

I don't know much about it or whether your previous ferry trips have
already tainted any background checks they perform on you, but maybe
applying to one of the "Trusted Traveler" programs would reduce future
contact with low-I.Q. goons:

http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/travel/trusted_traveler/

It's not any other country but my own raising a stink! I have been
a_rrested/detained twice on return to the U.S. once upon leaving the plane
(entering the jetway) and once on the plane rather interesting looks I got
on that one.

Renunciation of U.S. Citizenship

A. THE IMMIGRATION & NATIONALITY ACT

Section 349(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) is the
section of law that governs the ability of a United States citizen to
renounce his or her U.S. citizenship. That section of law provides for the
loss of nationality by voluntarily performing the following act with the
intent to relinquish his or her U.S. nationality:

"(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or
consular officer of the United States in a foreign state , in such form as
may be prescribed by the Secretary of State" (emphasis added).


B. ELEMENTS OF RENUNCIATION

A person wishing to renounce his or her U.S. citizenship must voluntarily
and with intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship:

appear in person before a U.S. consular or diplomatic officer,
in a foreign country (normally at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate); and
sign an oath of renunciation

Renunciations that do not meet the conditions described above have no legal
effect. Because of the provisions of section 349(a)(5), Americans cannot
effectively renounce their citizenship by mail, through an agent, or while
in the United States. In fact, U.S. courts have held certain attempts to
renounce U.S. citizenship to be ineffective on a variety of grounds, as
discussed below.

C. REQUIREMENT - RENOUNCE ALL RIGHTS AND PRIVILEGES

In the recent case of Colon v. U.S. Department of State , 2 F.Supp.2d 43
(1998), plaintiff was a United States citizen and resident of Puerto Rico,
who executed an oath of renunciation before a consular officer at the U.S.
Embassy in Santo Domingo. The U.S. District Court for the District of
Columbia rejected Colon's petition for a writ of mandamus directing the
Secretary of State to approve a Certificate of Loss of Nationality in the
case because the plaintiff wanted to retain one of the primary benefits of
U.S. citizenship while claiming he was not a U.S. citizen. The Court
described the plaintiff as a person, "claiming to renounce all rights and
privileges of United States citizenship, [while] Plaintiff wants to continue
to exercise one of the fundamental rights of citizenship, namely to travel
freely throughout the world and when he wants to, return and reside in the
United States." See also Jose Fufi Santori v. United States of America ,
1994 U.S. App. LEXIS 16299 (1994) for a similar case.

A person who wants to renounce U.S. citizenship cannot decide to retain some
of the privileges of citizenship, as this would be logically inconsistent
with the concept of citizenship. Thus, such a person can be said to lack a
full understanding of renouncing citizenship and/or lack the necessary
intent to renounce citizenship, and the Department of State will not approve
a loss of citizenship in such instances.

D. DUAL NATIONALITY / STATELESSNESS

Persons intending to renounce U.S. citizenship should be aware that, unless
they already possess a foreign nationality, they may be rendered stateless
and, thus, lack the protection of any government. They may also have
difficulty traveling as they may not be entitled to a passport from any
country. Even if they were not stateless, they would still be required to
obtain a visa to travel to the United States, or show that they are eligible
for admission pursuant to the terms of the Visa Waiver Pilot Program (VWPP).
If found ineligible for a visa or the VWPP to come to the U.S., a
renunciant, under certain circumstances, could be permanently barred from
entering the United States. Nonetheless, renunciation of U.S. citizenship
may not prevent a foreign country from deporting that individual back to the
United States in some non-citizen status.

E. TAX & MILITARY OBLIGATIONS /NO ESCAPE FROM PROSECUTION

Also, persons who wish to renounce U.S. citizenship should also be aware
that the fact that a person has renounced U.S. citizenship may have no
effect whatsoever on his or her U.S. tax or military service obligations
(contact the Internal Revenue Service or U.S. Selective Service for more
information). In addition, the act of renouncing U.S. citizenship will not
allow persons to avoid possible prosecution for crimes which they may have
committed in the United States, or escape the repayment of financial
obligations previously incurred in the United States.

F. RENUNCIATION FOR MINOR CHILDREN

Parents cannot renounce U.S. citizenship on behalf of their minor children.
Before an oath of renunciation will be administered under Section 349(a)(5)
of the INA, a person under the age of eighteen must convince a U.S.
diplomatic or consular officer that he/she fully understands the nature and
consequences of the oath of renunciation and is voluntarily seeking to
renounce his/her U.S. citizenship. United States common law establishes an
arbitrary limit of age fourteen under which a child's understanding must be
established by substantial evidence.

G. IRREVOCABILITY OF RENUNCIATION

Finally, those contemplating a renunciation of U.S. citizenship should
understand that the act is irrevocable, except as provided in section 351 of
the INA, and cannot be canceled or set aside absent successful
administrative or judicial appeal. (Section 351(b) of the INA provides that
an applicant who renounced his or her U.S. citizenship before the age of
eighteen can have that citizenship reinstated if he or she makes that desire
known to the Department of State within six months after attaining the age
of eighteen. See also Title 22, Code of Federal Regulations, section 50.20).

Renunciation is the most unequivocal way in which a person can manifest an
intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Please consider the effects of
renouncing U.S. citizenship, described above, before taking this serious and
irrevocable action. If you have any further questions regarding this matter,
please contact the Director, Office of Policy Review & Interagency Liaison,
Bureau of Consular Affairs, U.S. Department of State, Washington, DC 20520.

Well the video and results are out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/

I can't bring myself to watch it.
The story says no drugs or alcohol in his system.






Larry Dighera wrote:
Is airline passenger abuse on the rise as a result of passenger
reaction to airline delays?


http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...r.html?ref=rss

Man dies after Taser shock by police at Vancouver airport
Last Updated: Sunday, October 14, 2007 | 5:04 PM ET

A man in his 40s died early Sunday morning after RCMP jolted him with
a Taser at the Vancouver International Airport, police said.

Airport security called the Mounties for assistance after an
unidentified man began pounding on windows and throwing chairs and
computer equipment in the customs area shortly after arriving on an
international flight at 1:30 a.m., Richmond RCMP Sgt. Pierre Lemaitre
told CBC News.

"We arrived and tried to calm the man," Lemaitre said. "We tried
through gestures to get him to put his hands down on the desk … to no
avail."

When he ignored orders to calm down, police used a stun gun on the
man.

The man dropped to the floor and police said it took three officers to
handcuff him. He then lost consciousness and appeared to go into
cardiac arrest and was pronounced dead at the airport, the CBC's Chris
Brown reported.

Few other details have been disclosed other than the man spoke an
Eastern European language and a flight from Poland touched down about
an hour before the incident, Brown said.

Taser devices are controversial because of the dozen North American
deaths resulting from their use. There has been debate about how safe
these devices are when dealing with certain kinds of people who are
delirious or wound up, Brown said.

Police are investigating and a toxicology report will be done to
determine whether there were drugs in the man's system. They will be
interviewing customs officers and flight attendants, Brown reported.

International arrivals were rerouted but there were no delays in
flight schedules.

The Visitor wrote in
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Well the video and results are out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/

I can't bring myself to watch it.
The story says no drugs or alcohol in his system.



Any sex or car chases in it though?

Bertie

On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 15:18:24 +0000 (UTC), Bertie the Bunyip
wrote in :

The Visitor wrote in
:

Well the video and results are out.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/



http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl.../National/home
Tasered man's last moments
IAN BAILEY

Globe and Mail Update

November 14, 2007 at 10:18 PM EST

VANCOUVER — Astonishing video footage released yesterday shows
Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski did not resist police or
confront them before officers zapped him with a taser, setting off
a struggle that ended in his death in the international arrivals
area of Vancouver's International Airport.

The footage, shot by Victoria resident Paul Pritchard, was
released to the news media yesterday and widely broadcast,
providing a raw look at events that have prompted a furious debate
in B.C. about the police use of tasers. ...

He began acting erratically after more than 10 hours being
processed — the footage picks up as he was positioning chairs and
a table in a manner that caused the automatic doors to remain
open. Security guards look on.

He appears to turn and move away from officers, putting up his
hands in frustration. He appears to pick up a stapler on a
counter. He is then tasered with a 50,000-volt shock, and
jittering he drops, screaming in pain.

Someone yells "hit him again." He was tasered twice. Police pile
on, seeking to restrain him. One officer places his knee on Mr.
Dziekanski's neck.

Mr. Dziekanski went into medical distress and died there. The
footage shows officers attending to him. One man in a suit checks
for a pulse. It is impossible to tell from the footage whether he
is dead at that point, although he appears non-responsive.

An autopsy later found no sign of drugs or alcohol in Mr.
Dziekanski's system, but failed to come up with any specific cause
of death. ...

"I was expecting to see a confrontation, a discussion and things
go sideways, then the tasering. That's not what you see," he said.

"The biggest thing that surprises me is there were four
professional police officers there, and that the four officers
showed up on the scene, [and] none of them seemed to take the
time, not one of them, to go and talk to the crowd of people, the
witnesses that were there and get some background on what was
going on," he said. ...

Larry Dighera wrote in
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"The biggest thing that surprises me is there were four
professional police officers there, and that the four officers
showed up on the scene, [and] none of them seemed to take the
time, not one of them, to go and talk to the crowd of people, the
witnesses that were there and get some background on what was
going on," he said. ...



http://www.bizbag.com/Click/click.htm


Bertie

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...taser1026&sid=
Airport taser death
Internal airport documents prompt troubling questions


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...taser1016&sid=
The taser debate
Cell phone images of man before taser incident at the Vancouver
International Airport


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...aser_death1114
Taser death video
Warning graphic content: Footage of final moments of Robert
Dziekanski's life


http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servl...26.wvtaser1026