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Can a Plane on a Treadmill Take Off?



 
 
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Old February 16th 06, 08:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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("T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote)
But what I want to know is if the horse had wings, a la Pegasus, and was
on a treadmill going the opposite direction, could the horse take off?



Depends. Is the carrot and stick secured to the horse or the treadmill?


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Old February 17th 06, 01:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Depends. Is the carrot and stick secured to the horse or the treadmill?

Dang it! This thing just wont die! :^)

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Old February 17th 06, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Bob,

On the contrary, the problem clearly states that the conveyor is moving at
the speed that the plane is moving (but in the opposite direction).


Huh? The OP was saying "If you have a conveyoer which always reduces the
airplane's movement to zero", to which I said "the original question doesn't
say that".


I did not say that, either. I said the conveyer was moving at the speed
the airplane is moving, but in the opposite direction. I did not say
that the conveyer reduced the airplane's movement to zero, an
impossibility short of tethering the airplane.

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Old February 17th 06, 02:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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With respect to what?

I'm not responding to anything in specific, but to the mere fact that
this thread has gone on so long. You can answer all your questions by
answering "with respect to what?" for all movement issues, and realizing
that the airplane flies (or not) by moving with respect to the
surrounding air.

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Old February 17th 06, 09:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:11:27 -0500, T o d d P a t t i s t
wrote:

"Flyingmonk" wrote:

LOL Bob, I thought for sure this horse was definitely dead. Hahaha.


But what I want to know is if the horse had wings, a la
Pegasus, and was on a treadmill going the opposite
direction, could the horse take off?


Depends on whether the horse needs forward motion through the air or not. It
it can take off from a standing position, then the answer is yes. If it
needs a running start, the answer is no.
Q.E.D.


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Old February 17th 06, 09:43 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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("T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote)
They're secured to Pegasus, but what I'm not going to specify is whether
Pegasus uses the traction of his hooves against the ground or the beat of
his wings against the air to gain flying speed.



Poor little hooves - spinning at twice the speed of the treadmill.

It hurts just thinking about it.


Montblack

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Old February 17th 06, 10:02 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("T o d d P a t t i s t" wrote)
They're secured to Pegasus, but what I'm not going to specify is whether
Pegasus uses the traction of his hooves against the ground or the beat of
his wings against the air to gain flying speed.



Poor little hooves - spinning at twice the speed of the treadmill.

It hurts just thinking about it.


Montblack


Could be a Harrier horse.


 




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