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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Flyingmonk wrote:
Montblack, If you use Google, just click on "show options" and click remove. That's it. Idiot Fetters still claims that he didn't use different names. That computer "finger print" is as good as DNA. Really? Ever hear of spoofing? Matt |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Fetters wrote:
Really? Ever hear of spoofing? Email addresses can be spoofed, names can be changed, but the computer "finger print" is unigue to each computer and its IP. 69.235.147.233 originated from ONE IP and in particular, ONE computer connected via ONE IP. __________________________ From: "planeman" Newsgroups: rec.aviation.rotorcraft Subject: Mini-500 Accident Analysis Date: 26 Jul 2005 11:59:38 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 13 Message-ID: . com References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.235.147.233 __________________________ From: Dennis Fetters User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.aviation.rotorcraft Subject: Mini-500 Accident Analysis Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 2305 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.235.147.233 __________________________ As you can see, both: "planeman" and Dennis Fetters both originate from: NNTP-Posting-Host: 69.235.147.233 , where this number '69.235.147.233' is unigue to each compunter, although he used two different email addresses. He computer's finger print is there for all to see... Dennis is not very bright. He's not even bright enough to know that he could be traced. He's not even bright enough to go back and remove his posts. He calls his critics idiots, but what an idiot he is. Too stupid to even go back and erase evidence. |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
On 3 Dec 2005 10:27:02 -0800, "Flyingmonk" wrote:
My observation is: 1. Denise is a good businessman, but not a good designer. 2. Cicarre is a good designer, but not a good businessman. Does a GOOD businessman.... 1. Run his business into the ground? 2. Keep deposits on undelivered goods? 3. Leave others holding the bag? 4. Open more businesses to repeat the above? Does a GOOD SALESMAN.... 1. Sell a refrigerator to an eskimo, 2. Get the money, 3. Sleep with or marry the eskimo's daughter.... 4. NEVER have to deliver the refrigerator. City Father - Excelsior Springs, MO Home of a failed kit helicopter company |
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On Fri, 02 Dec 2005 16:49:57 GMT, Dennis Fetters
wrote: City Father wrote: Dear Sir/Mr.Fetters: Being the astute business man that you are/were... Do you have any future manufacturing plans for Excesior Springs? There are many folks that would just love to see you here again. Although we have a new McDonalds, Arbys, an Applebee's and a huge Wal-Mart expansion underway.... Excelsior Springs never had anybody close to your reputation, except maybe, the late great Jesse James. City Father, Excelsior Springs, MO 64024 Dear coward that hides behind a fake name. Dennis Fetters =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Fake name? Guilty. Me a coward? Not guilty. You're waaay too easy, Dennis. Barnyard BOb - aka City Father |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Fake Name, now I'm guilty --- just a test.
to see the header. Same laptop, same browser, same ip, some simple spoofing to see how the header looks. |
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To get a different NNTP posting is very easy, but to get the same is
hard. I challenge you to 'spoof' MY NNTP with your name and see if you can show that you are posting from MY NNTP. That will be the test. I can get a new NNTP all day long, but this one is unigue to my computer. To proove that Planeman spoofed Denise, You must spoof me with same NNTP. IF you can't than I rest my case. |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Flyingmonk wrote:
Fetters wrote: Really? Ever hear of spoofing? Email addresses can be spoofed, names can be changed, but the computer "finger print" is unigue to each computer and its IP. 69.235.147.233 originated from ONE IP and in particular, ONE computer connected via ONE IP. Well, I haven't been involved with networking since the DECnet days, but I have no doubt that someone proficient can hack the packet header field that contains the originating node IP address. I'm not saying Dennis wasn't trying to impersonate someone else, but I hardly think the evidence presented is sufficient to prove that. Matt |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Flyingmonk wrote:
To get a different NNTP posting is very easy, but to get the same is hard. I challenge you to 'spoof' MY NNTP with your name and see if you can show that you are posting from MY NNTP. That will be the test. I can get a new NNTP all day long, but this one is unigue to my computer. To proove that Planeman spoofed Denise, You must spoof me with same NNTP. IF you can't than I rest my case. Well, I'm not questioning is hacking ability, but saying that because one person can't do this implies that it can't be done is just ridiculous. I can't perform open heart surgery either, so I guess that means to you that it can't be done, right? I'm beginning to appreciate Dennis' frustration now. Matt |
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(Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!
Matt wrote:
Well, I'm not questioning is hacking ability, but saying that because one person can't do this implies that it can't be done is just ridiculous. I can't perform open heart surgery either, so I guess that means to you that it can't be done, right? No, not at all. My question is WHY would someone named Planeman, posting from a DIFFERENT email address, would spoof Denise's NNTP and post with a diferent name to support Denise's arguments? If Planeman wanted to support Denise, he can just go right ahead and support him. Why would he need to spoof denise's NNTP? Why would Planeman go through the trouble of spoofing and yet posted under a different name? I'm beginning to appreciate Dennis' frustration now. Sorry that I frustate you Matt, but I never meant to frustrate YOU in particular. Normally I'm very docile, He is probably one of very VERY few people that gets me worked up. |
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