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Old March 14th 04, 05:57 PM
Philip Sondericker
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in article , MRQB at
wrote on 3/13/04 5:00 PM:

counted out $16k in cash


To hell with airworthiness! The riskiest thing you did that day was walk
around with 16 grand in your pocket.

  #12  
Old March 14th 04, 06:33 PM
BTIZ
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good going.. glad to hear it..

BT

"MRQB" wrote in message
...
Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low

cost
time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke

him
up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
price, price dependant upon inspection.

A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got

there
before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me

a
bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual

to
it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed

up
about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could

pull
it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is

ware
it starts to get interesting!

He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the

shop
he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an

airworthiness
issue's.

We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said

that
it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have

been
complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified

and
started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair

to
me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.

I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone.

The
plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone

due
to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to

the
truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my

offer
my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted

out
$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale

we
shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.

Times
4030 Airframe
700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
100 ON New Prop

All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8

Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,

steering
rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness

squawks
little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done

monday.
I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
Excellent Advice.













  #13  
Old March 14th 04, 06:35 PM
BTIZ
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you've got a great friend in the A&P that went with you.. reward
appropriately... it's his "living".. and a nice dinner for him and the mrs..

BT

"MRQB" wrote in message
...

"Matthew P. Cummings" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:

night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local

area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am

woke
him

I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look nice,

I
hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY" suggest
you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and

watch
it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to

hidden
corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your engine.
Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out

well.

A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at

your
doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine, compressions
mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.


My A & P "Friend" that took me to do the pre buy said that every thing
looked good and in the report about how it was stored in the logs he said
was it was done properly somthing about "Preservative Oil used for anti
corrosion in the sump & cylinders" got me on that one did not know there

was
such a thing!




  #14  
Old March 14th 04, 07:54 PM
MRQB
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He was rewarded appropriately.

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:kJ05c.15339$Nj.512@fed1read01...
you've got a great friend in the A&P that went with you.. reward
appropriately... it's his "living".. and a nice dinner for him and the

mrs..

BT

"MRQB" wrote in message
...

"Matthew P. Cummings" wrote in message
news
On Sat, 13 Mar 2004 17:00:15 -0800, MRQB wrote:

night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local

area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am

woke
him

I found the plane on ebay, item number 2466652124 and it does look

nice,
I
hope it works out for you, it's a risky purchase because it sat in a
hangar since 1987 and only got attention last year. I "HIGHLY"

suggest
you put that plane on regular oil analysis to establish a trend and

watch
it carefully for engine problems. I've seen too many of these hangar
queens lose an engine within the first couple hundred hours due to

hidden
corrosion. Be very careful and particular when it comes to your

engine.
Of course I could have read the ad wrong, and if I did you made out

well.

A 76M for the price you say you got is a steal, watch for the cops at

your
doorsteps, you flat out stole it if it's got a good engine,

compressions
mean nothing on an engine that sat for 17 years in a hangar.


My A & P "Friend" that took me to do the pre buy said that every thing
looked good and in the report about how it was stored in the logs he

said
was it was done properly somthing about "Preservative Oil used for anti
corrosion in the sump & cylinders" got me on that one did not know there

was
such a thing!






  #15  
Old March 14th 04, 07:55 PM
MRQB
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No not that risky I've walked around with a lot more than that. Just don't
tell any one that you have it and your ok.


"Philip Sondericker" wrote in message
...
in article , MRQB at
wrote on 3/13/04 5:00 PM:

counted out $16k in cash


To hell with airworthiness! The riskiest thing you did that day was walk
around with 16 grand in your pocket.



  #16  
Old March 14th 04, 08:43 PM
MRQB
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Yep thats right first time flying my airplane man that sounds werid,


"Judah" wrote in message
...
"MRQB" wrote in
:

snip
First's
Taking off UP HILL
First time dealing with TFR's
First time in class B airspace


You forgot...

First time flying YOUR airplane!



  #17  
Old March 14th 04, 08:45 PM
MRQB
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Apex Private WA05 (formerly S42)

http://www.airnav.com/airport/WA05


"Bob Fry" wrote in message
...
"MRQB" writes:

Ohh, this trip was a big learning experience! I have never taken off on

a
slopped runway before it was kinda cool taking off "UP HILL" then there

was
a TFR that started 1/2 mile from the end of the runway.


What airport did you depart from?

Congratulations on your purchase! After all the problems encountered
on the way, they can all now be forgotten--or fondly remembered as a
small price to pay for owning your own aircraft. And good on ya' mate
for being willing to learn new things: TFRs, Class B, etc.



  #18  
Old March 14th 04, 11:27 PM
Doug
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What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in cash?

"MRQB" wrote in message ...
Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low cost
time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early Thursday
night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke him
up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the phone
price, price dependant upon inspection.

A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got there
before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar came
out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell me a
bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major annual to
it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed up
about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could pull
it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is ware
it starts to get interesting!

He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad? Seller
acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the shop
he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with all
inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an airworthiness
issue's.

We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said that
it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There was
no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have been
complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified and
started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than Fair to
me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.

I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone. The
plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone due
to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to the
truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my offer
my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So I
went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted out
$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale we
shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.

Times
4030 Airframe
700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
100 ON New Prop

All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8

Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires, break
rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages, steering
rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness squawks
little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done monday.
I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
Excellent Advice.

  #19  
Old March 15th 04, 01:00 AM
MRQB
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They had me fill out a form for the government! Told me that next time to
call a day in advance so they could order the funds. They almost refused to
give me over 10k at once told them it was my money and i want it now!!!!!! I
said I dont care that I need to fill out a form to get my money so give me
my money or give me every thing in my account and close it they gave me the
amount i asked for was more then 16k that i was asking for.


I hate banks for that reason.


"Doug" wrote in message
om...
What did the bank say when you told them you wanted to withdraw 16k in

cash?

"MRQB" wrote in message

...
Hello, all well I have been lurking and posting trying to find me a low

cost
time builder well I almost have up the hunt, I went to bed early

Thursday
night woke up about 4am logged on to eBay and to my surprise a local

area
person posted a nice little low time 1976 150 called the guy at 5am woke

him
up, he called back about 8 am I spoke with him settled on a over the

phone
price, price dependant upon inspection.

A friend and I drove for about 4 hours to go look at this bird. We got

there
before the seller and started poking around a old guy smoking a cigar

came
out and asked you interested in that airplane, said maybe can you tell

me a
bit about it. Said yea I can I just got done doing a major a major

annual to
it. Talked with him got all his info and he went away. The seller showed

up
about 5 min later had all the logs back to new, I asked him if we could

pull
it over to the mechanics hanger so I could inspect the airplane. Now is

ware
it starts to get interesting!

He hands me the keys and says' s taxi it over and ill get you guys some
screw drivers well had a problem starting starter clutch went bad?

Seller
acted like he did not know about it but since it was going over to the

shop
he had a A & P put a new one in and put an entry in the logs, Now with

all
inspection plates removed and new starter clutch the 4 hours pre buy
inspection is under way. Only 3 squawks were found but not an

airworthiness
issue's.

We put the plane back together and go review the log books well he said

that
it was IFR certified well it was clearly not but it was in 1987. There

was
no damage history neither was there any missing logs and all AD's have

been
complied with. Went to the seller told him that it was not IFR certified

and
started the negations. We settled on a cash price that was more than

Fair to
me tell you the truth I'd have paid $5k to $7k more if I had more money.

I went there with cash in hand for price we agreed upon over the phone.

The
plane had 3 squawks and was not IFR certified as I was told It dose have
full IFR panel. I offered him a lower amount than we agreed on the phone

due
to the discrepancies The seller declined after I started to walk back to

the
truck to go home. The seller made a counter offer $50.00 more than my

offer
my friend looks at me said take it worth way more then he is asking. So

I
went inside sat down at the table got all the paperwork done and counted

out
$16k in cash we both signed a sales agreement he signed the bill of sale

we
shook hands and now I own me a late model 150.

Times
4030 Airframe
700 SMOH Engine Compressions 74,75,77,75
100 ON New Prop

All around condition a strong 7.5 may an low 8

Fresh Annual Done Right!! Nothing Deferred, Airplane Has New tires,

break
rotors, wheel Barings, fuel line, fuel strainer valves, fuel gages,

steering
rods and boots, starter clutch, and a lot more, yes it dose help to get
another set of eyes on the airplane as we found 3 non airworthyness

squawks
little things that dont really need to be done buy are getting done

monday.
I know i am happy I kinda feel guilty at the price i go it for.

Thanks To All The Groups Here For Putting Up With Me And For All The
Excellent Advice.



  #20  
Old March 15th 04, 01:06 AM
Carl Ellis
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"MRQB" wrote in newsD25c.38$bw6.37391
@news.uswest.net:




I thought it might be APEX. I bought my Taylorcraft from a fellow who has
a hangar there. 2.5 years ago the sub base (Bangor) had effectively
confiscated part of their strip by extending a no-fly zone into the first
500' or so of the runway. The navy was pretty heavy handed - there was
talk of installing cameras to catch air-space "violators" and other such
nonsense. A go-around could be pretty white-knuckled to stay out of
"their" airspace.

At that time it was a one-way strip - arriving and departing from the south
(ish) . There is a nice big hump in the runway so you need to taxi half-
way down and have a look-see, do a run-up, then back to the other end for
take-off.

- Carl -
 




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