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  #41  
Old March 30th 04, 07:50 PM
Dennis O'Connor
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My experience with OH gyros has been so-so... Not horrible, but not good
enough to risk my life on them... One time back in the 60's, flying my
Skylane up to Drummond Island to take my boys fishing, I did have my only
horizon slowly wind down and roll over - I used the TC to let down
underneath and fly marginal vfr back to my home airport... It was an old
unit that had been overhauled a couple of times in a 7000 hour airframe...
My rule since then is that the PIC AI/TC have to be replaced with new if
they go sour... Back up gyros/nav-heads can certainly be OH units...

Most of us have two VOR, so I don't have strong feelings on them... But,
many pilots have just one GS, so it needs to be trustworthy...
I have actually had the fun experience about two years ago of having an
recently overhauled GS head pack it up in, 300 and a mile conditions ... The
needle centered on the bubble and stayed there... No warning flag... If it
weren't for the fact that it was rough air and I had been having to jockey
the throttle all the way down to that point I might have been lulled into a
bad situation... I got suspicious fairly quickly, added power, and when the
needle did not react and declared the missed approach... That was the day I
added another rule to my book - the copilot side ILS radio WILL be turned on
and on frequency during any real IMC approach...

Yup, seems some of those on here are spoiling for some kinda fight... Wrong
guy for that... I'll just keep commenting where I see fit...

denny

"Jay Masino" wrote in Dennis,
I tend to agree with you. My experience, as well as the experience of
my avionics person (who's also a friend of mine) is that the overhauls
don't tend to last as long as new. I'm not sure why you're statement is
causing so much heartburn.



  #42  
Old March 30th 04, 08:10 PM
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I don't know about actually paying more to put one in, but in my Cherokee,
it's slightly nice to have. I usually leave it set to IAS (non-corrected), but once
in awhile when I'm bored at 9000', I'll check to see how much headwind I'm fighting
between the TAS and GPS readouts....

I've got good eyes, and for some reason, it *is* a bit awkward to set the
temp/p-alt in a TAS indicator. Just a weird combination of numbers, I guess.

-Cory

In rec.aviation.owning Jay Honeck wrote:
: I've always had a TAS ASI, and I've never had a problem setting it
: correctly. Are you guy sure you don't need you glasses prescription
: tweaked a little?

: I've always had one, too. In over 800 hours (plus another 400 with Mary as
: PIC) I've never set it.

: Not even once.

: It is a waste of money. Not a LOT of money, in aviation terms, but still.
: --
: Jay Honeck
: Iowa City, IA
: Pathfinder N56993
: www.AlexisParkInn.com
: "Your Aviation Destination"



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Old March 30th 04, 09:25 PM
Jay Honeck
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I don't know about actually paying more to put one in, but in my Cherokee,
it's slightly nice to have. I usually leave it set to IAS

(non-corrected), but once
in awhile when I'm bored at 9000', I'll check to see how much headwind I'm

fighting
between the TAS and GPS readouts....


After you've done that once or twice, you will know what your airspeed will
normally be at 9000 feet. From that point on, a glance at your GPS ground
speed will tell you precisely what kind of headwind you're up against.

I'm not saying it's not a useful doo-dad to have on board, but I sure
wouldn't pay extra for it.
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Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


  #44  
Old March 30th 04, 09:50 PM
G.R. Patterson III
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MRQB wrote:

Humm its hurting my brain deciding witch one to get price
difference is min as I am already going to have to be spending $420.00 on a
standard or should I spend a bit extra $490 on a true airspeed witch would
be best?


Before you get too excited, check with your local FSDO. With the Teterboro FSDO,
the instrument must either be the exact make and model of one on the original
equipment list, or it must be STC'd for the aircraft. It may be possible to get
others approved, but it's like pulling teeth on a Grizzly with no anesthetic.

George Patterson
Treason is ne'er successful, Sir; what then be the reason? Why, if treason
be successful, Sir, then none dare call it treason.
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Old March 31st 04, 02:00 PM
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In rec.aviation.owning Aaron Coolidge wrote:
: In rec.aviation.owning wrote:
: : I've got good eyes, and for some reason, it *is* a bit awkward to set the
: : temp/p-alt in a TAS indicator. Just a weird combination of numbers, I guess.

: : -Cory

: Try adjusting one in a Mooney. Instead of 0-10,000 ft it goes 0-18,000 ft
: in the same size window. Oh, yeah, the airspeed goes to 240kts also, so
: all the numbers are really small. Luckily, this Mooney has a Garmin 530
: and an air-data computer, so all you have to do is hit "AUX".

: PS, I do use the "Piper Truspeed" indicator in my plane all the time. I
: know what TAS I should have, when adjusted for temp & altitude. If it
: varies, there's something wrong.
: --
: Aaron Coolidge

I pretty much go by IAS. Given a MP, RPM, and Mixture combination, I know
what percent power I'm running. From experience, I know what IAS I should get with
that... anything else and something is different (like more aft loading, for
instance). Higher altitudes might mean better TAS, but you're usually affected more
by the higher winds aloft than by the IAS/TAS increase. As I said.... usually
something I fiddle with when BA (bored aloft)...

-Cory

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  #47  
Old March 31st 04, 05:41 PM
Jim Weir
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Not right now you wouldn't. The whole workshop is in boxes in the barn waiting
for the rebuild of the hangar benches and furniture.

Jim


"Jay Honeck"
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:


-
-Am I the only one here who would pay good, hard-earned cash just to see
-Jim's workshop?
-
-:-)

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
http://www.rst-engr.com
  #48  
Old March 31st 04, 09:15 PM
Jim Weir
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I haven't had one apart in twenty years, but as I recall, the shaft for the TAS
knob was outside the pressure vessel.

Jim


rip
shared these priceless pearls of wisdom:

-And, when you get your pitot/static check done, the shaft for the TAS
-knob is pretty much a guaranteed leak.



Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
VP Eng RST Pres. Cyberchapter EAA Tech. Counselor
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  #49  
Old April 1st 04, 03:40 AM
MRQB
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Well I got my ASI today looks great bright lettering pito/static system will
be rechecked on Friday to see if it holds when the avionics guys return from
Vegas on Friday look great in my panel.


"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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MRQB wrote:

Humm its hurting my brain deciding witch one to get price
difference is min as I am already going to have to be spending $420.00

on a
standard or should I spend a bit extra $490 on a true airspeed witch

would
be best?


Before you get too excited, check with your local FSDO. With the Teterboro

FSDO,
the instrument must either be the exact make and model of one on the

original
equipment list, or it must be STC'd for the aircraft. It may be possible

to get
others approved, but it's like pulling teeth on a Grizzly with no

anesthetic.

George Patterson
Treason is ne'er successful, Sir; what then be the reason? Why, if

treason
be successful, Sir, then none dare call it treason.



 




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