Blue Angels F-18A Hornet on E-Bay

NO!
Nobdy can buy any military aircraft that is still supported by FMS
without definitive approval from the State department PERIOD, it's
definitely a bogus ad.

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:55:10 -0500, "Mr Smith"
wrote:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

Nice post John, now what is the FAA's definition of airworthy? LOL


On Fri, 6 Feb 2004 07:49:47 -0600, "John Carrier"
wrote:

All the Hornet drivers here, if I'm a Citation X pilot
with 4500+ hrs, how difficult is landing a Hornet ?
I imagine the ONLY place one can acquire training on
them is in the Navy (Marines included).

The F-18 has perhaps the most benign flying qualities of any high
performance jet aircraft. X-wind landings require a particular technique
(as Woody states). Otherwise, it's difficult to hurt yourself if you honor
its envelope, know your procedures, and have a well-maintained airframe.

The big issue with any high performance military jet is getting it airworthy
and keeping it airworthy. Warbirds can be had for ridiculously low prices
(particularly compared to small corporate jets), but getting them up and
keeping them up makes even Travolta's 707 toy look like a relative bargain.
Of course, 1300 gallons give-or-take of JP per sortie (often a particularly
SHORT sortie) makes it pricey as well.

I wonder how difficult it would be to retrofit a nice modern GPS-based nav
system and ILS (not many airports .... any? ... have an operational
TRN-28)?\

R / John

Bogus-AFAIK, it is not legal to buy a current combat (or previous for that
matter) aircraft as these are owned by the US gov't and are leased to the
military, essentially.

This was an issue when some private buyers wanted to buy an F-8...had to get
it from France, not the US, when many were still at D-M...

Samo with the F-104 'what's his name' had...he bought it literally in pieces,
as in 'cut up'...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer

Mr Smith wrote:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72

What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

I say Legit,, However

appears to be what they claim..

http://www.airwarbirds.com/f_a-18_pics.htm

However I doubt that the F-18 could be flyable.
their website sez that the aircraft is complete, but judging from the photos
it appears to be some "damage" may just be photo angle.
but since this company flies military aircraft, and is offering this
bird for such a low price, I'll bet that its not flyable, and would be good
for display or movie work only...... OR IF it could be made flyable
for several millions invested past the purchase price.

Sorry, but that is false. There have been several privately owned A4's
(while the A4 was still in service) a handful of T-38's and 2 F-5's flying
today with private ownership. FAA registered. Not only are the T-38 and F-5
supersonic, they both could be loaded out with weapons. (That would not be
legal but the ability is there)

I had the opportunity to fly one of the F-5s and an A-37 so I know this is
factual. I personally know a gentleman who owns and flies an A-37
regularly. He has one the most impressive collections of military aircraft
one could own. T-34, T-28, P-51, F4U along with his A-37 and several
others.

If I had the time or inkling, I could go the FAA site and compile a list of
privately owned "current" US military fighter, attack and trainer aircraft.

Jake

PS - All CIA and NASA birds are registered civil aircraft and could be, if
these agencies so desired, sold to private concerns. I included the CIA as
many CIA aircraft used in SE Asia made their way back to the US in private
hands and are still being flown today. (Mary, I know some of the NASA birds
would NEVER be sold)



"fudog50" wrote in message
...
NO!
Nobdy can buy any military aircraft that is still supported by FMS
without definitive approval from the State department PERIOD, it's
definitely a bogus ad.

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004 12:55:10 -0500, "Mr Smith"
wrote:



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ategory=46 72


What do you guys think ??

Legit or bogus ?

(Pechs1) wrote:
Bogus-AFAIK, it is not legal to buy a current
combat (or previous for that
matter) aircraft as these are owned by the US
gov't and are leased to the
military, essentially.

This was an issue when some private buyers
wanted to buy an F-8...had to get
it from France, not the US, when many were still
at D-M...

Samo with the F-104 'what's his name' had...he
bought it literally in pieces,
as in 'cut up'...
P. C. Chisholm
CDR, USN(ret.)
Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter
and Combat Buckeye Phlyer
I seem to remember a U.S. News and World Report article in '98 about stuff
falling thru cracks in the system: they mentioned a retired USN A-6 pilot
who went to AMARC and left with an airworthy A-6E. Engines, starter cart,
etc. He didn't intend to fly it, he did put it up at the entrance to his
horse ranch as sort of a gate guard.

Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access!

Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal wrote:
Brings up another point. What FCC PROM is the jet running? My guess is
pre-10.7, but if you're running PROM 10.7, then there's a definite need for
an INS.


The good news is with a PROM burner and a Mk I/Mod 0 PC you could write
your own flight control software.

Nice post John, now what is the FAA's definition of airworthy? LOL

An excellent question and I have NO CLUE.

Wonder if I could find a nice low time F-8H with a J-57P420? A very sweet
machine if you avoided boats and short runways.

R / John

On 2/8/04 1:00 PM, in article , "nafod40"
wrote:

Doug \"Woody\" and Erin Beal wrote:
Brings up another point. What FCC PROM is the jet running? My guess is
pre-10.7, but if you're running PROM 10.7, then there's a definite need for
an INS.


The good news is with a PROM burner and a Mk I/Mod 0 PC you could write
your own flight control software.


No. I couldn't. I'm just a Mk 1/Mod 0 stick monkey.

Nobody does! That is a serious point of contention, especially for us
maintenance guys. The word "airworthy" and it's inclusion in FAR's is
currently under scrutiny and review for a definitive definition by the
FAA. Thanks for being honest, John.

On Sun, 8 Feb 2004 13:02:55 -0600, "John Carrier"
wrote:

Nice post John, now what is the FAA's definition of airworthy? LOL

An excellent question and I have NO CLUE.

Wonder if I could find a nice low time F-8H with a J-57P420? A very sweet
machine if you avoided boats and short runways.

R / John