PA-32 Weight and Balance

Has anyone ever been able to put 6 adults in a Saratoga without exceeding
the aft CG?

So far, every time I run the numbers with two adults in the aft two seats, I
exceed the aft CG.

In article NrYag.44229$iF3.30882@dukeread01,
"John Doe" wrote:

Has anyone ever been able to put 6 adults in a Saratoga without exceeding
the aft CG?
So far, every time I run the numbers with two adults in the aft two seats, I
exceed the aft CG.

It depends on just how big your adults are.
If you are talking about overweight males, the answer is no. You will
probably get five, but be sure to calculate a landing CG to assure that
the CG has not gone aft of limits for landing. If you are taking
baggage, you can play with who sits in the center row of seats and
baggage in the nose compartment to shift things forward.

If you are talking about overweight
males, the answer is no.

Unless you put overweight males in the front, too.

If you are talking about overweight
males, the answer is no.

Unless you put overweight males in the front, too.

"john smith" wrote in message
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In article NrYag.44229$iF3.30882@dukeread01,
"John Doe" wrote:

Has anyone ever been able to put 6 adults in a Saratoga without exceeding
the aft CG?
So far, every time I run the numbers with two adults in the aft two
seats, I
exceed the aft CG.

It depends on just how big your adults are.
If you are talking about overweight males, the answer is no. You will
probably get five, but be sure to calculate a landing CG to assure that
the CG has not gone aft of limits for landing. If you are taking
baggage, you can play with who sits in the center row of seats and
baggage in the nose compartment to shift things forward.

Does anyone have an electronic weight and balance for PA-32 ?

Does anyone have an electronic weight and balance for PA-32 ?

Do you mean a spreadsheet?

In article _y9bg.44290$iF3.6732@dukeread01,
"John Doe" wrote:

"john smith" wrote in message
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In article NrYag.44229$iF3.30882@dukeread01,
"John Doe" wrote:

Has anyone ever been able to put 6 adults in a Saratoga without exceeding
the aft CG?
So far, every time I run the numbers with two adults in the aft two
seats, I
exceed the aft CG.

It depends on just how big your adults are.
If you are talking about overweight males, the answer is no. You will
probably get five, but be sure to calculate a landing CG to assure that
the CG has not gone aft of limits for landing. If you are taking
baggage, you can play with who sits in the center row of seats and
baggage in the nose compartment to shift things forward.

Does anyone have an electronic weight and balance for PA-32 ?

It is easy to build one up, using excel. All you need to do is list all
the weights, their arm, multiply weight by arm, sum up the moments and
divide by the sum of the weights.

It is easy to build sample gross weight scenarios and loadings expected
on typical trips.

John Doe wrote:

"john smith" wrote in message
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In article NrYag.44229$iF3.30882@dukeread01,
"John Doe" wrote:

Has anyone ever been able to put 6 adults in a Saratoga without exceeding
the aft CG?
So far, every time I run the numbers with two adults in the aft two
seats, I
exceed the aft CG.

It depends on just how big your adults are.
If you are talking about overweight males, the answer is no. You will
probably get five, but be sure to calculate a landing CG to assure that
the CG has not gone aft of limits for landing. If you are taking
baggage, you can play with who sits in the center row of seats and
baggage in the nose compartment to shift things forward.

Does anyone have an electronic weight and balance for PA-32 ?

CoPilot flight planner for the Palm PDA has a customizable W&B you can
apply to any A/C.

The graphical display will show ramp, take off, landing, and no fuel for
a flight.

--
Jim Pennino

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I do not believe that will help

"Mike Granby" wrote in message
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If you are talking about overweight
males, the answer is no.

Unless you put overweight males in the front, too.

In article _y9bg.44290$iF3.6732@dukeread01,
John Doe wrote:

Does anyone have an electronic weight and balance for PA-32 ?

Saratoga FG: http://www.wvfc.org/craft/83763.html

Saratoga RG: http://www.wvfc.org/craft/432lt.html

I played around with the numbers, and the Saratoga FG is pretty
easy to get outside the aft limit. On the RG, even with just an
FAA standard 170 lbs pilot, no baggage, and 450 lbs in the rear
seats, it is just within the aft CG.

YMMV,

John
--
John Clear - http://www.clear-prop.org/