"Guilty" of Flying the Wrong Pattern?

Ron Lee wrote:

Still, that sounds like a good way to get people killed. The second
operator should have been busted.

That's a pretty bold statement considering you weren't there to know all
the circumstances of the second pilot's decision making.

--
Peter

I often tell students that if you hang around the airport long enough,
you'll see somebody do something stupid. The first point should be don't do
something stupid, the second is that somebody's watching. I guess this guy
makes a third point that if you've got enemies, they'll be watching
especially close. (whether they know what they are seeing is another matter)

I didn't realize you could actually report someone to the FAA for
enforcement action for flying the wrong pattern. We could almost
literally turn someone in every DAY here in Iowa City, simply by
recording Unicom and handing it to the FSDO.

On any given day we usually have at least one doofus (usually a biz jet
jockey, but not always) blast into the pattern "against the grain" (so
to speak) that could easily be busted, under this scenario.

Maybe if more pilots knew about this action, these minor (but
potentially dangerous) infractions would stop?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Maybe if more pilots knew about this action, these minor (but
potentially dangerous) infractions would stop?

Do =you= do any "minor" infractions that other pilots may consider
potentially dangerous (but you don't consider dangerous, else you
wouldn't do them)? How much "governmnet down our necks" do you want?

Jose
--
"Never trust anything that can think for itself, if you can't see where
it keeps its brain." (chapter 10 of book 3 - Harry Potter).
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Maybe if more pilots knew about this action, these minor (but
potentially dangerous) infractions would stop?

Do =you= do any "minor" infractions that other pilots may consider
potentially dangerous (but you don't consider dangerous, else you
wouldn't do them)? How much "governmnet down our necks" do you want?

I don't want ANY government down our necks. But neither have I found a
good way to stop pilots from performing stupid pilot tricks like
landing at our airport on an opposing (unpublished) traffic pattern,
simply because it saves them some fuel. It happens so often that I
have to believe that it's become standard policy for some charter
operators to land in whatever way saves the most fuel, damn the rules.

Quite frankly, I don't think we need *any* more enforcement action.
(And I'm not commenting on the merits of the case in question, BTW.)
What we need is to PUBLICIZE that enforcement action has already taken
place. I'll bet that would give some of these prima donna pilots
second thoughts before they ignored everyone else in the pattern...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

This is where a good airport manager or grandfatherly figure can politely
inform the offending pilot what they happened to notice. It's surprising
what a subtle hint between pilots can accomplish.
Jim

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com...
Maybe if more pilots knew about this action, these minor (but
potentially dangerous) infractions would stop?

Do =you= do any "minor" infractions that other pilots may consider
potentially dangerous (but you don't consider dangerous, else you
wouldn't do them)? How much "governmnet down our necks" do you want?

I don't want ANY government down our necks. But neither have I found a
good way to stop pilots from performing stupid pilot tricks like
landing at our airport on an opposing (unpublished) traffic pattern,
simply because it saves them some fuel. It happens so often that I
have to believe that it's become standard policy for some charter
operators to land in whatever way saves the most fuel, damn the rules.

Quite frankly, I don't think we need *any* more enforcement action.
(And I'm not commenting on the merits of the case in question, BTW.)
What we need is to PUBLICIZE that enforcement action has already taken
place. I'll bet that would give some of these prima donna pilots
second thoughts before they ignored everyone else in the pattern...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I would guess that it was a matter of the other guy knowing the regs and
using them to advance his grudge against this pilot. Most of us wouldn't
bat an eye unless it caused an obvious safety issue. 91.126(b), 91.127(a)
would be the reading material I would point out to a student that had any
question about this.
Jim