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OSH videos are up...
Nothing too fancy -- just some short videos that I shot at Oshkosh of
the big bombers, the seaplane base, the Beach Boys, etc. See 'em sprinkled on their appropriate days he http://www.alexisparkinn.com/oshkosh_2006.htm (Sorry for the download speed. Our aviation video page has been listed on several major "cool sites" websites this week, and it's making our entire website run slower than normal...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
(Sorry for the download speed. Our aviation video page has been listed on several major "cool sites" websites this week, and it's making our entire website run slower than normal...) Let me know if you'd like me to mirror a few of these for you, Jay - I have tons of fast bandwidth on my server. I enjoyed checking out the RAP pictures, BTW - I was surprised to see I actually made it into a few of them. I'm trying to loose my lurker status so that perhaps next time people actually have a clue who I am. |
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OSH videos are up...
Let me know if you'd like me to mirror a few of these for you, Jay - I
have tons of fast bandwidth on my server. Forgive my ignorance -- how does that work? I enjoyed checking out the RAP pictures, BTW - I was surprised to see I actually made it into a few of them. I'm trying to loose my lurker status so that perhaps next time people actually have a clue who I am. Lurkers rule! I talk with them every day, at the hotel. In fact, I just took a booking from one this afternoon, a guy named Bob. He's a long-term lurker that is going on a VERY cool cross country flight from Pennsylvania to Colorado, and will be spending the night with us on his journey. I hope he "de-lurks" long enough to write up his trip. It sure sounds cool! -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
ups.com... Let me know if you'd like me to mirror a few of these for you, Jay - I have tons of fast bandwidth on my server. Forgive my ignorance -- how does that work? Mirrors can work in a variety of ways, but most common is simply to provide an alternate link for the hosted videos (or in this case, it may be easier to just host an entire alternate video page, so that no one has to go through and insert new links for each video). There's nothing really special about it...it's just a different place that users can go if downloads are slow on the primary source. Pete |
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OSH videos are up...
Forgive my ignorance -- how does that work?
Mirrors can work in a variety of ways, but most common is simply to provide an alternate link for the hosted videos (or in this case, it may be easier to just host an entire alternate video page, so that no one has to go through and insert new links for each video). So, if I'm reading this right, the mirror is basically another server. From what you say, I gather that it would require uploading to both servers each time I updated the page? Is there any way around that? The name "mirror" implies (to me, anyway) that there must be a way to make a server into a "repeater" of another server? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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On 19 Aug 2006 05:51:29 -0700, Jay Honeck wrote:
(mirroring content on webservers) So, if I'm reading this right, the mirror is basically another server. From what you say, I gather that it would require uploading to both servers each time I updated the page? you can do it that way, yes. you can also distribute the content around the globe and let a script either decide which server to use or round robin through your servers for access to downloads. or you pay akamai for the service :-) Is there any way around that? The name "mirror" implies (to me, anyway) that there must be a way to make a server into a "repeater" of another server? yes. there is a way, but only works if the mirror uses software like rsync: http://everythinglinux.org/rsync/ but then still you have the user to make the decision. example: main server: www.foo.bar mirror in europe: www.eu.foo.bar mirror in uk: www.uk.foo.bar another mirror: www.example.com/foo (where the foo directory is the root directory for the mirrored content) on the main page you give your visitors a choice of servers, or you use urlrewriting in a .htaccess file and decide. :-) example: http://www.gnu.org/server/list-mirrors.html there might be a way to automatically distribute the same content to more than 1 server from your client. hth, #m -- Did you ever realize how much text fits in eighty columns? If you now consider that a signature usually consists of up to four lines, this gives you enough space to spread a tremendous amount of information with your messages. So seize this opportunity and don't waste your signature with bull**** nobody will read. |
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Jay Honeck wrote: Nothing too fancy -- just some short videos that I shot at Oshkosh of the big bombers, the seaplane base, the Beach Boys, etc. See 'em sprinkled on their appropriate days he http://www.alexisparkinn.com/oshkosh_2006.htm (Sorry for the download speed. Our aviation video page has been listed on several major "cool sites" websites this week, and it's making our entire website run slower than normal...) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Thanks for the pics and the videos Jay. Monk |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
oups.com... So, if I'm reading this right, the mirror is basically another server. From what you say, I gather that it would require uploading to both servers each time I updated the page? At some point, yes...the content needs to somehow get to the mirror. Is there any way around that? The name "mirror" implies (to me, anyway) that there must be a way to make a server into a "repeater" of another server? There is. It's just that most people don't implement them that way when it's just a matter of a sudden spike in traffic. Since computers are involved, it is possible to automate pretty much as much of the process as you'd like. In the biggest, highest-traffic situations all of this is completely transparent to the end-user. However, if you expect this load to be transient it may not be worth the trouble to set something like that up. If you think this kind of load will exist long-term, you may well want to permanently move the video hosting elsewhere, preferably to a server that won't need mirroring. There are lots of possible solutions...one you might want to consider is just letting YouTube host the videos. They allow embedding in your own web pages, as long as you provide some minimal linking back to the YouTube web site. One downside is that all the videos wind up being transcoded into the 320x200 format that YouTube serves up, but I think most of your videos are low-res anyway so that's probably not a big deal (and any that are the correct format already probably won't have to be transcoded). The transcoding happens on YouTube's end, so that's not really something you need to worry about, except from a quality point of view. Another downside is that you have to have Macromedia Flash installed to see YouTube videos, which is kind of a silly requirement given that most computers already have working media players installed and could play a variety of video types natively. However, some people might actually see this as a benefit, since it's used to embed the video in a web page, simplifying the viewing process somewhat. Most people have Flash installed anyway, even if they don't like it, because it's so ubiquitous. But you will wind up leaving some folks out, if you take this route (or you could provide a non-Flash link for those without Flash...even if there's a few people left you need to host for, moving the bulk of the traffic to YouTube or similar could solve the bandwidth issue). It seems to me that the first thing you need to do is figure out what role this video page of yours plays in your overall plan. If it's truly just a community service and you don't intend to get into the big-time video hosting business, it might be better to just throttle the video hosting to make sure it doesn't eat up bandwidth and server processing for the other stuff (like your hotel pages). The interest will die down soon anyway, and you'll still be serving more people than you ever had before. If you intend for the video page to serve as an attractor for hotel business, and you're hoping to redirect as much traffic as possible from the video page over to the rest of the hotel web site, then you probably want to set up something more robust. But in that case, your video page is part of the hotel marketing, and can probably be deducted from your hotel income for tax purposes (assuming you have net income that needs reducing in the first place ). It will cost you a little more, but a) you won't wind up paying the full bill (Uncle Sam will pick up part) and b) if it's really an effective and useful marketing strategy, one hopes it will contribute to the hotel bottom line in a way that justifies the expense. Until you understand why it is you host these videos, I don't think you can make a rational decision about how to host them. Pete |
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OSH videos are up...
Until you understand why it is you host these videos, I don't think you can
make a rational decision about how to host them. You'll get no where with me, Pete, acting like my wife... ;-) Thanks for your help understanding this. I assume that this will be a short-term spike in interest (it's already running faster), but you just never know. This whole thing is so accidental, it's funny. Today is our 4-year anniversary of opening the hotel, and it's worked out better than we had a right to expect. The stupid video page (originally just an aid to navigation for our fly-in guests, with a couple of videos of us flying into Iowa City) has taken on such a life of its own, it could easily become a stand-alone business. I'm trying to waste as little time and money on it as possible, but that's hard to do when you receive an average of 200 mb worth of video contributions each day, from all 'round the world. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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OSH videos are up...
Peter Duniho wrote:
Mirrors can work in a variety of ways, but most common is simply to provide an alternate link for the hosted videos (or in this case, it may be easier to just host an entire alternate video page, so that no one has to go through and insert new links for each video). That's about it, Jay. Let me know if that's something your into - I can put together a basic HTML page with simple links to the videos using my own webspace..or I could mirror your exact html as long as you could FTP me the videos. Then you could just put a link on your site pointing there...aka "If the site is slow, try this mirror" situation. -- Mark Courtice Ontario Canada http://www.oshawapilot.ca |
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