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Old July 16th 05, 12:13 PM
Bob Noel
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In article 9e%Be.155743$x96.88270@attbi_s72,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

If only I had room in Atlas to bring a coupla dozen ears...


Sounds like you need a bigger airplane. :-)

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Old July 16th 05, 05:17 PM
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("Bob Noel" wrote)
If only I had room in Atlas to bring a coupla dozen ears...


Sounds like you need a bigger airplane. :-)



Luggage pods. You have hard points on those wings, don't you?

How about on-top luggage pods like the engines on that new Honda Jet? g

Belly pod on Dakota/Pathfinder? Anyone attempt something like this? Is there
room?

"Haul Anything - Plus" ....11


Montblack :-)
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Nigel: ...the numbers all go to eleven. Look...right across the board.

Marty: Ahh...oh, I see....
Nigel: Eleven...eleven...eleven....
Marty: ..and most of these amps go up to ten....
Nigel: Exactly.
Marty: Does that mean it's...louder? Is it any louder?

Nigel: Well, it's one louder, isn't it? It's not ten. You see,
most...most blokes, you know, will be playing at ten. You're on ten
here...all the way up...all the way up....

Marty: Yeah....
Nigel: ...all the way up. You're on ten on your guitar...where can
you go from there? Where?

Marty: I don't know....
Nigel: Nowhere. Exactly. What we do is if we need that extra...push
over the cliff...you know what we do?

Marty: Put it up to eleven.
Nigel: Eleven. Exactly. One louder.

Marty: Why don't you just make ten louder and make ten be the top...
number... and make that a little louder?

Nigel: These go to eleven.

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Old July 16th 05, 05:22 PM
Doug
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I bought one of those digital ones that mount on a window for 60 bucks.
After fooling around with it and figuring out it's "error" (which is
from 5 to 9 degrees high), I can actually tell what the temperature is
outside. It's a great design, just needs a calibration knob. Has aan
extra battery, hit a switch if the main one fails. It uses hearing aide
batteries. Reads in degrees C or F.

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Old July 16th 05, 07:09 PM
Jay Honeck
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If only I had room in Atlas to bring a coupla dozen ears...

Sounds like you need a bigger airplane. :-)


Luggage pods. You have hard points on those wings, don't you?

How about on-top luggage pods like the engines on that new Honda Jet? g


Those are cool, no? Imagine the structure at the attachment points?
Must be some kind of incredibly strong hard points, for sure.

Belly pod on Dakota/Pathfinder? Anyone attempt something like this? Is there
room?


Not much room under the plane for a pod -- the gear isn't tall enough.
It's the only problem with having the same useful load as a Cherokee
Six -- we run out of space before we run out of payload capability.
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Old July 17th 05, 03:40 AM
George Patterson
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Jay Honeck wrote:

If only I had room in Atlas to bring a coupla dozen ears...


Get a tow hook, a fast glider, and a glider certificate for your son. He can
pilot your "trailer" all the way there. Release when over the airport.

George Patterson
Why do men's hearts beat faster, knees get weak, throats become dry,
and they think irrationally when a woman wears leather clothing?
Because she smells like a new truck.
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Old July 17th 05, 05:25 AM
Jay Honeck
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Get a tow hook, a fast glider, and a glider certificate for your son. He
can pilot your "trailer" all the way there. Release when over the airport.


I must admit, now that you mention it, that soaring is one segment of GA
that I have *never* seen represented at OSH.

I've seen a glider perform during the airshow, but never seen one "flown
in", as it were.

I wonder why?
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Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"


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Old July 17th 05, 05:09 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
I've seen a glider perform during the airshow, but never seen one "flown
in", as it were.


Gliders have the right of way over powered aircraft.
Let's say the Acme Glider Club decides to sponsor a group flyin to OSH.
They have a couple of tow planes to launch the 25 participants.
To make it to OSH from 25 miles away they need to break tow at say, 5000
AGL. It takes 15-20 minutes per glider. Three tow planes, 20 minutes
each, that's what... 9 gliders per hour. So it is going to take 3 hours
to launch all the gliders.
Let's say it takes each glider half an hour to fly the 25 miles to OSH.
To have sufficient lift, these flights must occur during the afternoon.
The airshow runs 3-5 pm.
Hmmm???
They must launch the last glider no later than 2 pm to allow for
deviations and recover before the airport is closed.
Keep in mind, you have all these people in powered aircraft converging
on RIPON, circling the lake, inbound from FISK, etc. And every 20
minutes, you are going to have to fit three gliders into the flow.
Also, you have the neophytes who are arriving for the first time and/or
those who never bothered to read the NOTAM.
As the Nationwide Insurance commercial says, "Life comes at you fast!"
Let us further suppose that those super OSH controllers do manage to
make it work. Now we have to move the gliders with their long wings out
of the way of the powered airplanes wanting to taxi in the grass.
Sure would be fun to watch!
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Old July 17th 05, 09:45 PM
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Not much room under the plane for a pod -- the gear isn't tall enough.
It's the only problem with having the same useful load as a Cherokee
Six -- we run out of space before we run out of payload capability.


Sure there is... you pump up the struts like they do on the Cherokee Six.
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Old July 19th 05, 03:27 AM
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Sure would be fun to watch!

For sure!

:-)
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
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Old August 3rd 05, 05:24 PM
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Ok, I'll bite... I wanna do it!

Lets see... the ASK-21 from Colorado, a CAP tow plane... Yes,
the AirVan GA-8 will do fine... gotta figure out how to get
a tow hook on it... can't taxi on the ground, and I get only
one approach, so I'll have to have my own paragraph in the
Oshkosh Arrival NOTAM... they will need a year to get the paragraph
written (and the FAA to adopt it). Yes! This is doable!
Is there a qualified CAP tow pilot out there who wants to play?

I figure I'd assemble the glider at, say... Portage, fly high
over Oshkosh, arrange to arrive DURING the air show, and
position the ASK-21 in Aero-Shelll Square next to the other
CAP equipment.

Yes!!!!

Jay Honeck wrote:
Get a tow hook, a fast glider, and a glider certificate for your son. He
can pilot your "trailer" all the way there. Release when over the airport.


I must admit, now that you mention it, that soaring is one segment of GA
that I have *never* seen represented at OSH.


I've seen a glider perform during the airshow, but never seen one "flown
in", as it were.


I wonder why?



Best regards,

Jer/ "Flight instruction and mountain flying are my vocation!" Eberhard

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