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Waypoint/turnpoint files
Is there any rationality to the numbering of waypoints in files?
Looking at some from the Turnpoint Exchange, I can't find any real order. If there's not a reason for a waypoint to be a specific number, I can shuffle and renumber at will, right?? |
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Not if you compete. Sounds like you want to put in ABC.. order.
Turnpoints have a little history and pilots number their maps , and being pilots, don't want to buy new maps every year. Plus a Turnpoint can exist for years and gets "tagged" for life that becomes engrained in our brains. Change the number sequence and "F... and S..." can be heard throughout the colony as now we have to redo our maps and cover it with clear paper cussing the whole time. New Turnpoints will be added to the bottom and the CM and CD do a great job in not upsetting the sequence any more than they have to. There are other reasons I'm sure, but familiarity improves safety and reduces frustration , while the CD is calling out a revise task over the radio. And now, other reasons. R |
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On Mar 5, 2:51*pm, " wrote:
Not if you compete. Sounds like you want to put in ABC.. order. Turnpoints have a little history The real problem is reprinting every page of the photo book if the numbers change. No wait, we don't use them any more. Andy |
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On Mar 5, 2:27*pm, Andy wrote:
On Mar 5, 2:51*pm, " wrote: Not if you compete. Sounds like you want to put in ABC.. order. Turnpoints have a little history The real problem is reprinting every page of the photo book if the numbers change. No wait, we don't use them any more. Andy Turn/Waypoint files being fairly small and simple, I figured I'd just download all I can stand (areas I intend to fly this year) and import them into a spreadsheet. Write a sort them and pitch all the duplicates, then assign numbers and generate one waypoint file to use in my iPAQ (running XCSoar) that has them all. Terrain, Topo, and SUA files would be loaded for any given 'outing'. |
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What you need is TPSELECT, www.enborne.f2s.com/gliding/tpselect.htm
wrote in message ... On Mar 5, 2:27 pm, Andy wrote: On Mar 5, 2:51 pm, " wrote: Not if you compete. Sounds like you want to put in ABC.. order. Turnpoints have a little history The real problem is reprinting every page of the photo book if the numbers change. No wait, we don't use them any more. Andy Turn/Waypoint files being fairly small and simple, I figured I'd just download all I can stand (areas I intend to fly this year) and import them into a spreadsheet. Write a sort them and pitch all the duplicates, then assign numbers and generate one waypoint file to use in my iPAQ (running XCSoar) that has them all. Terrain, Topo, and SUA fies would be loaded for any given 'outing'. |
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Waypoint/turnpoint files
On Mar 5, 2:32*pm, wrote:
Is there any rationality to the numbering of waypoints in files? Looking at some from the Turnpoint Exchange, I can't find any real order. *If there's not a reason for a waypoint to be a specific number, I can shuffle and renumber at will, right?? As far as your original question (logic of the numbering), I've seen: - Distance from home field. Lowest number = closest. Makes it very easy when calling a task for people to scan in the approximate range from home. - Alpha order. - Rotation around the home field (i.e. NE quadrant included 1,2,3 etc. rotating around until the whole 360 field is covered). - Random number generator :-) As others mentioned, these files were typically oriented toward a competition, so once they wee set, there is a lot of inertia getting in the way of renumbering. The other factor can then be that multiple turnpoint files get concatenated to form a regional file. At that point, all bets are off! I've done what you're suggesting; imported a bunch of files and merged/ purged until I have a unique set. Then, sorted the file in Alpha order by TP name and renumbered 1 - x. As of now, the Earth continues to spin more or less predictably on its axis ... P3 |
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On Mar 7, 4:23*am, Papa3 wrote:
On Mar 5, 2:32*pm, wrote: Is there any rationality to the numbering of waypoints in files? Looking at some from the Turnpoint Exchange, I can't find any real order. *If there's not a reason for a waypoint to be a specific number, I can shuffle and renumber at will, right?? I've done what you're suggesting; imported a bunch of files and merged/ purged until I have a unique set. * Then, sorted the file in Alpha order by TP name and renumbered 1 - x. * As of now, the Earth continues to spin more or less predictably on its axis ... P3 Thanks! I was worried about perhaps inducing global climate shift by loading my huge "regional" database into my iPAQ and Cambridge. Whew! What a relief. If it DOES happen, I'm blaming YOU! ; - ) Another question. Does anyone know of a utility to allow viewing of waypoint files in Google Earth? Even better would be GENERATING or editing waypoints that way. I'm not a programmer, don't play one on TV, and I've never stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, so I have no idea how to go about this. |
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