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Dear Friends,

You may find these Air Transport Pilot (ATP) airman
credentials interesting.

These ATP airman credentials shew
glider rating only
with no airplane ratings. Can you explain this?

Can you do same?

Can it be done now without Airplane rating ?
How ? Or, do you think these airmen may have surrendered
certain of their ratings. Now, instrument rating
presumes airplane or helicopter ratings, and ATP certificate
presumes instrument rating.

Do you think these credentials preceded current standards
?

What are your suppositions or what does your knowledge
provide to explain such as these listed ?

Dancing on clouds,

Keep it up!

Jim Culp USA
GatorCity Florida
Asw-20C

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Name : AADLAND, JAMES LEIGH
Airman's Address : YUKON, OK, 73099
FAA Region : Southwest
Date of Medical : Nov, 1998
Class of Medical : 2
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider Aero Tow

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Name : AADLAND, NANCY ANN
Airman's Address : YUKON, OK, 73099
FAA Region : Southwest
Date of Medical : Nov, 1997
Class of Medical : 2
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider
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Name : ANDRIJESKI, ARNOLD HERMAN
Airman's Address : TAMPA, FL, 33629
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Jun, 2003
Class of Medical : 1
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider
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Name : ANTILL, WILBERT ZELO
Airman's Address : LIGHTHOUSE POINT, FL, 33064
FAA Region : Southern
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider
Private Pilot (foreign
based)
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Name : BAUER, JOE VANCE
Airman's Address : BRADENTON, FL, 34202
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Feb, 1999
Class of Medical : 1
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider
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Name : CLEMENTS, MANEN OSCO
Airman's Address : HERNANDO, FL, 34442
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Feb, 1981
Class of Medical : 2
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Glider

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Name : COFFIN, EDWARD MONTGOMERY
Airman's Address : W. PALM BEACH, FL, 33405
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Apr, 1993
Class of Medical : 1
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider
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Name : COLEMAN, GEORGE LESTOR
Airman's Address : ORLANDO, FL, 32825
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Feb, 1997
Class of Medical : 1
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Glider
Ground Instructor
Advanced
Instrument
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Name : COLVIN, LLOYD HARVEY
Airman's Address : HOLLYWOOD, FL, 33021
FAA Region : Southern
Date of Medical : Dec, 2002
Class of Medical : 1
Airman Certificates : Airline Transport Pilot
Commercial Pilot Privileges
only
Glider

Jim Culp wrote:
Dear Friends,

You may find these Air Transport Pilot (ATP) airman
credentials interesting.

These ATP airman credentials shew
glider rating only
with no airplane ratings. Can you explain this?

What are your suppositions or what does your knowledge
provide to explain such as these listed ?

Clearly these guys belong to a little known division of the
SSA called the " Troop Transport Glider Association"

or maybe...

They are the future pilots for the Virgin Atlantic Space gliders.
I believe Spaceship One was registered as a glider. It probably
only takes a Glider Commercial to pilot one of those.

8)

Willie G.

Um,

As I understand it, an ATP is automatically qualified
to be an instructor for SEL and MEL airplanes.

That being the case, the entry Commercial Glider Privileges
only, Glider, indicates that this person is prohibited
from instructing in gliders.


At 19:36 18 April 2006, Willie wrote:

Jim Culp wrote:
Dear Friends,

You may find these Air Transport Pilot (ATP) airman
credentials interesting.

These ATP airman credentials shew
glider rating only
with no airplane ratings. Can you explain this?

What are your suppositions or what does your knowledge
provide to explain such as these listed ?

Clearly these guys belong to a little known division
of the
SSA called the ' Troop Transport Glider Association'

or maybe...

They are the future pilots for the Virgin Atlantic
Space gliders.
I believe Spaceship One was registered as a glider.
It probably
only takes a Glider Commercial to pilot one of those.

8)

Willie G.

NO--

An ATP does not extend instruction privileges in ASEL or AMEL. Your
CFI certificate must carry these authorizations separately. A CFI
certificate in SEL and/or MEL along with a Commercial Rating in single
and/or multi engine sea does extend instruction privileges in SES
and/or MES.

Confusing huh!!

Skip Guimond