Some flying vids I made...

("B A R R Y" wrote)
Jon Kraus wrote:
Now I see why Sam is so sensitive...

Wow...

That was sooo wrong.


Agreed.


Montblack

On 28 Jan 2007 19:25:48 -0800, wrote in
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you owe me an apology to say the least

Without defending Mr. Kraus, it is interesting to note that it was you
who were the first to resort to vituperation by referring to Mr. Kraus
as "Cop Boy" and "Jerk" in response to his mere mention IFR operation.
Why did you find it necessary to publicly resort to unprovoked
invective language toward a fellow airman in a worldwide forum?

Thanks for posting those.

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ps.com...
The footage was taken during my trip last month from Colorado to FL
and back in a C172 (yeah, I'm a masochist):

Fluffy little clouds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZJsasteE9k

Blues:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxULCYqvGpY

So what's your point Larry? Does that make what he did ok? I call
some bozo (fellow "airman" as you say) a wanna be cop and I can expect
my fellow "airman" to post my physical contact information along with
baseless and slanderous comments that I am doing a HIGHLY ILLEGAL and
VERY DANGEROUS activity?

As far as my initial comments, he had no business suggesting that I
may or may not have been on an IFR flight plan. He's not the FAA and
he's not a moderator of this newsgroup. Was there anything in my
videos that would invite such speculation? If yes, then please point
that out - I'd sure be curious to know what it is. I should hope it's
something beyond my flying straight and level through clouds at an
even IFR altitude (as seen in the vids). If not, then I stand by my
initial comments that he's a "jerk" and wanna be cop (hardly strong
enough words to meet the definition of vituperation). I believe at
this point in time he has proven to be both of those terms in spades,
while all of his initial comments regarding me have proven to be
garbage.

I don't know what your take is on people that fly IFR illegally, but I
think it is just about one of the worst things you could possibly do
in an airplane. It is reckless, irresponsible, selfish, and beyond
dangerous. For me to be accused of such goes far beyond the use of
invective, vulgar language.

Sam

On Jan 29, 3:13 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On 28 Jan 2007 19:25:48 -0800, wrote in
.com:

you owe me an apology to say the leastWithout defending Mr. Kraus, it is interesting to note that it was you
who were the first to resort to vituperation by referring to Mr. Kraus
as "Cop Boy" and "Jerk" in response to his mere mention IFR operation.
Why did you find it necessary to publicly resort to unprovoked
invective language toward a fellow airman in a worldwide forum?

wrote in message oups.com...
:
::
: Threatening him? Why are you saying that? I wanted to talk to him
: and ask him why he out of the blue slandered me and posted my contact
: info (my physical address). If I wanted to threated him I'd threaten
: to post his address and phone number. I have them, but I'm absolutely
: NOT going to post them. It is ethically wrong to do so.
:

You use your 'real' name in your e-mail address AND you opted to allow the FAA to put your full address online.

Public information all. Someone just consolidated it here online for the newsgroup junkies to see. Not any information
that couldn't have been found anyway...

Still a lame thing to do...

Hoo boy - if you gents are trying to get Kraus sued for libel, in my
opinion you are using excellent tactics by attacking Trask and getting his
temper up. As I read it, Kraus unequivocally stated Trask committed several
crimes ("he broke a few FAR's"). It is my understanding that while personal
insults are generally deemed opinion and therefore not libelous, making
false factual claims with the intent to damage a person's reputation is
libel.

Perhaps if Kraus makes a public retraction and/or apology then this can be
settled and the lawyers will have to find some other way to make their
mortgage payments.

On Jan 29, 6:18 pm, Jim Logajan wrote:

Perhaps if Kraus makes a public retraction and/or apology then this can be
settled and the lawyers will have to find some other way to make their
mortgage payments.

As much as I would appreciate a retraction and public apology by Mr.
Kraus, it ain't gonna happen - as he has so aggressively notified me
during our email correspondence. But let me just make it clear right
now, I'm not going after Kraus legally or otherwise. Kraus has done
plenty of damage to himself already, and I've done everything by the
book with my videos - that's why they're still up and will stay up.
But anybody that's been around aviation and the internet probably
knows (or needs to know) about Avweb and Arthur Wolk. I have my own
opinions about that situation, but the point is if you think you can
just write unsubstantiated personal attacks against somebody on a
forum and get away with it, you could be in for quite a surprise.

I don't feel like I've been personally attacked by this group. I
think most of the people here are good people and I enjoy the
conversations. I'll be sticking around for awhile, and hopefully I'll
have some more videos to share soon. Thanks,

Sam

On 2007-01-29, Scott Skylane wrote:
C) FAA pilot records are notoriously slow to update. He might have his
IR, and it just hasn't shown up, yet.

Or occasionally, the paperwork really does go missing. When I got my
multiengine ticket, my glider rating vanished when the FAA sent the new
certificate. I only did the checkride for the glider rating about 6
weeks before my multi so I still had the temporary white slip from the
DE for the glider, so I hadn't known they'd lost the paperwork. A quick
email and they fixed it.

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("Jim Logajan" wrote)
Perhaps if Kraus makes a public retraction and/or apology then this can be
settled and the lawyers will have to find some other way to make their
mortgage payments.


His lawyer is drafting the thing right now...


Montblack

On 2007-01-29, wrote:
I've been posting on and off this newsgroup since I was 20 yrs old
(almost 10 years). I've never seen anyone do what he did to another
pilot. It's just sad.

You don't remember the flames that Stephen Ames got when he posted some
formation flying pics?

(Hmm. Would it be trolling if I posted the video we made of me doing
some inverted formation flying :-))

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