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  #11  
Old January 23rd 08, 09:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Gig 601XL Builder[_2_]
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xyzzy wrote:
On Jan 23, 1:36 pm, Gig 601XL Builder
wrote:
Gig 601XL Builder wrote:
B A R R Y wrote:
Folks,
I'm starting to research my next plane.
Is anyone aware of a book that lists, or better yet, groups by
similarities, piston single aircraft for performance and specification
research?
Any suggestions are welcome. A website would be OK, too, but I'd
actually prefer printed material.
Thanks!
Note a book but...
http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/

Oh and I forgot to mention it has this page.http://www.risingup.com/planespecs/advsearch.shtml

where you can enter the specs you are looking for and it will give you a
list of matching planes.


It would be a lot more useful if you could say for example twin or
not, retractable gear or not, tailwheel or not. 200+ results with a
bunch of twins isn't that useful to me...



Yes it would be nice as would being able to set the number of seats. But
for the cost it is the best I've been able to find.
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Old January 23rd 08, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Dan Luke[_2_]
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"B A R R Y" wrote:


We're (two of us) looking at the 150+ knot range, 4-5 seats, IFR &
autopilot, ~$100-125k. As we're very early in the process, I'm still
looking into speed / payload / fuel burn trade-offs, cabin size, gear
options.


That's a Mooney you're describing:

http://tinyurl.com/3d62fc


....or maybe a Commander:

http://tinyurl.com/34rn9h


....or maybe a 182RG:

http://tinyurl.com/2qn8xo

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Old January 24th 08, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Isaksen
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"Dan Luke" wrote ...
"B A R R Y" wrote:
We're (two of us) looking at the 150+ knot range, 4-5 seats, IFR &
autopilot, ~$100-125k. As we're very early in the process, I'm still
looking into speed / payload / fuel burn trade-offs, cabin size, gear
options.


That's a Mooney you're describing:

...or maybe a Commander:

...or maybe a 182RG:


And if the 5th seat is critical, look at a Piper Lance.


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Old January 24th 08, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Douglas Paterson
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
...

"B A R R Y" wrote:

We're (two of us) looking at the 150+ knot range, 4-5 seats, IFR &
autopilot, ~$100-125k. As we're very early in the process, I'm still
looking into speed / payload / fuel burn trade-offs, cabin size, gear
options.


That's a Mooney you're describing:

...or maybe a Commander:

...or maybe a 182RG:


I fell in love w/ and bought a Trinidad last year; fits all the mission
descriptors you give. The TB-20 (or 21, if you want turbo for a bit more
$$) will fit all your parameters. I also agree w/ Dan's listings, except
for the Mooney (since you also mention you want to put large folks in the
plane)--the 50" cabin width of the TBs was one of the biggest selling points
for me.

http://tinyurl.com/yvy5a3

The only other plane that made my short list was the Comanche (cabin width &
newer airframes ultimately swayed me to the TB). You'll have to try hard to
spend over $100K these days, though (I removed the floor from this search).

http://tinyurl.com/2c7rzh

Good luck!
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Old January 24th 08, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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"B A R R Y" wrote in message
.. .
Kingfish wrote:


Try this: http://www.ipilot.com/aircraft


Will do!


What did you have in mind? You fly out of HFD right?


That was temporary. Now we're back at Windham (IJD).

We're (two of us) looking at the 150+ knot range, 4-5 seats, IFR &
autopilot, ~$100-125k. As we're very early in the process, I'm still
looking into speed / payload / fuel burn trade-offs, cabin size, gear
options.

We'd rather not get smaller up front than the Sundowner, as I'm 6'1" 225,
and my co-owner is 6'6", 185. We'd like to go faster and higher (who
doesn't? G) and possibly gain some load.

I'm looking for a resource to fit aircraft to the mission, where I can
start getting price and insurance ideas from Trade-a-Plane, etc...


A36 its a good step up from the Sundowner.


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Old January 24th 08, 10:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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B,

We're (two of us) looking at the 150+ knot range, 4-5 seats, IFR &
autopilot, ~$100-125k.


That's easy: Socata TB-20 Trinidad. See www.socata.org both for a great
user community and some offers.

You won't find anything as spacious and modern (recent design, not too
old airframe) anywhere else in that price range. With a bench seat in
the back, it will seat five, although the usual weight limitations
apply. We're talking about a design from the late 70s, early 80s, and
an aircraft from the late 80s, early 90s. And it shows.

If you don't care about age, a Bo comes to mind. A Rockwell 114 might
be an option, too.

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Old January 24th 08, 10:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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B,

Is anyone aware of a book that lists, or better yet, groups by
similarities, piston single aircraft for performance and specification
research?


Aviation Consumer's Used Aircraft Guide.

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Old January 25th 08, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Isaksen
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"Thomas Borchert" wrote
That's easy: Socata TB-20 Trinidad. See www.socata.org both for a great
user community and some offers.


Love the airplane, but hate the headroom.


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Old January 25th 08, 08:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
Thomas Borchert
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Mike,

Love the airplane, but hate the headroom.


Never been an issue for me, but that obviously depends a lot on body
size and seating posture. Also, on the GT model, headroom is increased.

One obviously needs to try before investing 100k, but an airframe 25
years younger than the Bo also discussed in the thread would mean a lot
to me. Two doors and a more modern design, too.


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Old January 26th 08, 12:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.piloting
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I'm just sitting back and noting the suggestions...

I appreciate the excellent dialogue! You folks have provided a
mountain of excellent leads. Thanks!

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