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On Feb 23, 12:40*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote :





On Feb 23, 12:03*pm, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 22, 2:56*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

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On Feb 22, 2:25*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
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On Feb 22, 1:58*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Phil J wrote
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On Feb 22, 12:48*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
Phil J wrote
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On Feb 22, 12:40*pm, Bertie the Bunyip
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WingFlaps wrote
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On Feb 23, 4:55*am, Bertie the Bunyip
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William Hung wrote in
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP
might find it iteresing. *That second plane looks
a l
ot
like the

bumblebee, maybe

even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

That's Ray Stits' Skybaby. It's in the EAA museum
AFAIK. I think it still holds the smallest airplane
( wingspan) record. there were a few homebuilders
that got involved in a ****ing contest for the
smallest aroun
d
that time.
He said it was a handful to fly. You can see that on
the takeoff. One of the biggest problems it had was
the ASI didn;'t work worth a damn because it wasn't
possible to get the pitot far enough away from the
prop wash..

Hey Bertie why didn't you build one of these:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=TDmnjwbJrVM

Saw the first one at OSH many years ago. Pretty cool
machine. There's at least one that flew with two model
airplane jet engines! There's another youtube clip
somewhere

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Here are some photos of theCriCrijet...

http://www.amtjets.com/gallery_real_plain.html

How cool is that, eh? IIRC the takeoff roll is very long,
but once it's up and going it's fine.

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Bet it really turns heads on the ramp when you fire up
those engines!

How about four of 'em?

http://youtube.com/watch?v=SHYXrqoS08o&feature=related

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Saw that, the guy's got balls.

I like theCriCri, once I get enough experience, I just might
get me one O'Dem.

Yeah, they are cool! There doesn't seem to be any plans
available anymore, though someone is selling copies on CD in
Ebay. I don't know

if there is some reason he decided no to sell them anymore.
Someone in RAH would know, I'm sure.

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Not sure of the details, but the way I heard it was that either
Zenith

or Zenair had the US or Canandian rights to the plans and were
selling

them and kits in the Americas. *Well, long story short, something
wa
s
changed in the plans, the glue used for the wing skin I think,
proved dealy and the US or Canadian lawsuit pu and end to
theCriCrifor the Americas deal. *They areabundant, relatively, in
France however.

My momory and my info may not be correct.

Sounds reasonable. I hadn't heard. Adhesive shouldn't be a problem
if the right stuff is used. God knows there are plenty of metal
airplanes glued together for a very long time!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cLCM...eature=related

Look at 3:29 Might be a Cri Cri derivative. *Very Nice. *Some other
'New Thinking' designs there as well. *Who said GA is dead?
*Certainly

not in Europe where they even have more restrictions than here in the
US.

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Also check out the AeroCar at 4:11. *Wow!

Yeah, it seems to be alive and well. None of them really appeal to me, I
want a Monocoupe!

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Think I saw a Merphy Rebel or something like it in there.

Wil

On Feb 23, 5:29*pm, Phil J wrote:
On Feb 23, 11:03*am, William Hung wrote:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cLCM...eature=related

Look at 3:29 Might be a Cri Cri derivative. *Very Nice. *Some other
'New Thinking' designs there as well. *Who said GA is dead? *Certainly
not in Europe where they even have more restrictions than here in the
US.

Wil

Another unusual design in there. *It's got a 2-cylinder BMW motorcycle
engine mounted behind the cabin, driving the prop through a shaft that
runs between the seats. *Here's a link: *http://www.aerojames.com/index.php?section=appareil

Phil

How did you find that site Phil? I googled Isatis and came up with a
whole bunch of plants, an Artic fox and a dog.

Wil

On Feb 23, 8:11*am, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:54*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote innews:802280d2f59d1@uwe:

William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee, maybe
even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT hecilopter. I
didn't see a tail rotor.

Jet tip.

Bertie

Yeah there are several tip jet helicopters out there, The Atlas uses
hydrogen peroxide tip jets (steam).

http://www.advancedtechnologiesinc.c...raft_atlas.asp

The Hiller Hornet uses small karosene burning jet engines at the tips.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...rs/q0141.shtml

The Djinn uses bleed air from a turbine engine I believe.

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...kID=954d5715-5...

Looks like that big beast at the end also uses blreed air from those
four turbines mounted on the fuselage.

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Upon further investigation, that big beast at the end does use tip
jets, but it also has a TAIL ROTOR!

http://xplanes.free.fr/xv9/xv9a-2.html Original
http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr Translated

Wil

William Hung wrote in
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On Feb 23, 8:11*am, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 22, 6:54*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





"Kloudy via AviationKB.com" u33403@uwe wrote
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William Hung wrote:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZMJOS2VWaPU

I poste this video in RAH, thn thought some in RAP might find it
iteresing. *That second plane looks a lot like the bumblebee,
maybe even smaller. *Would any of you fly it?

Wil

WTF...how did they handle the anti-torque on that GIANT
hecilopter. I didn't see a tail rotor.

Jet tip.

Bertie

Yeah there are several tip jet helicopters out there, The Atlas uses
hydrogen peroxide tip jets (steam).

http://www.advancedtechnologiesinc.c...raft_atlas.asp

The Hiller Hornet uses small karosene burning jet engines at the
tips.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...rs/q0141.shtml

The Djinn uses bleed air from a turbine engine I believe.

http://www.aero-news.net/SpecialCont...ckID=954d5715-
5.
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Looks like that big beast at the end also uses blreed air from those
four turbines mounted on the fuselage.

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Upon further investigation, that big beast at the end does use tip
jets, but it also has a TAIL ROTOR!


Well, it would still need one for manuevering even if it weren't
required for torque. A lot of the other jet tip ones relied on a certain
amount of forward motion to stabilise the yaw axis, but that one is
obviusly meant for heavy lifting and would need to manuever around to do
it;'s job. The little guys were all almost ultralights IIRC. The hiller
jet tip was single place, I beleive.

Bertie

On Feb 23, 5:08*pm, William Hung wrote:
How did you find that site Phil? *I googled Isatis and came up with a
whole bunch of plants, an Artic fox and a dog.

Wil

Add the word "airplane" to the search.

Phil