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C-172 versus Sundowner
On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 12:03:43 GMT, .Blueskies. wrote:
I have no intention of ever going to anything other than a paved strip. Overall great bird for me. Plenty of back seat passenger room, plenty of cargo room. Hope this helps. Allen What is the useful load, range with 4 folks on board, etc? After full tanks (58 gallons) I count on 600 pounds for live meat (AKA passengers) and baggage. I have had two adults in the front and two lighter weight adults in the back with full tanks. Performance was just fine. Most of my flying have been with three people on board. As far as range, well, my longest flight by myself was 4.25 hours on one leg of a 700 nm journey, and that was pushing myself to the limits. Airplane still had about 15 gallons of fuel on landing. Can't say what the useful range with 4 on board as the longest I have flown with 4 people on board was 1 1/2 hours. Allen |
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C-172 versus Sundowner
I crossed the Warrior off my list because in just an hour my elbow
seemed to be always banging into the door You sat on the right side? Definitely try the Sundowner. Everybody can own a 172... You might want to get the used airplne report from Aviation Consumer on both types. Pay and download at aviationconsumer.com -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
I crossed the Warrior off my list because in just an hour my elbow seemed to be always banging into the door You sat on the right side? Nope, left. Got a check out from an FBO just to see how I liked the airplane. In a 172, my elbow sits comfortably on the arm rest with a couple of fingers on the yoke in cruise. Definitely try the Sundowner. Everybody can own a 172... You might want to get the used airplne report from Aviation Consumer on both types. Pay and download at aviationconsumer.com When I decided I'm going to buy an airplane, I bought their CD; well worth the money in my opinion. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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On Sun, 09 Jul 2006 21:05:03 GMT, wrote: When I decided I'm going to buy an airplane, I bought their CD; well worth the money in my opinion. Where are you based Jim? If you are within a 1 to 2 hour flight from KMBO, I'd be more then willing to fly up so you can see how my Sundowner performs. Thanks for the offer, but I'm about 40 miles East of Los Angeles. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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In a 172, my elbow sits comfortably on the arm rest with a couple of
fingers on the yoke in cruise. What I was getting at was that there is no door on the left side of the Warrior. A serious design flaw, IMHO. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
In a 172, my elbow sits comfortably on the arm rest with a couple of fingers on the yoke in cruise. What I was getting at was that there is no door on the left side of the Warrior. A serious design flaw, IMHO. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) Dooh; a senior moment. I'm too used to 2 door airplanes. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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C-172 versus Sundowner
Quirks: C-172 none, Sundowner appears to require a bit of dual to
learn how to land without porpoising. BS !!! If one is taught to land correctly in any aircraft... one can land a Beech Sport/Sundowner/Sierra. The problem lies in that many Piper and Cessna trained pilots are not taught proper speed control on final and always come in to fast. The Beech Sport/Sundowner/Sierra will float down the runway if to fast on final, then the pilot gets nervous seeing the end of the runway approaching and forces the aircraft down onto the nose wheel. Rubber donuts in that suspension and it bounces right back into the air.. PIO and maybe a broken nose gear. That old, Book Speed plus 5Knts for mom and each of the kids does not work with the Sport/Sundowner/Sierra. BT |
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