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  #21  
Old May 8th 08, 06:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default weather for pilots?

"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
:

On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft

that
penetrate hurricanes?

In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).

Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.

One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.



He's back! Let the bull**** low!



Bertie


  #22  
Old May 8th 08, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
WingFlaps
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 9, 12:02*am, "Ken S. Tucker" wrote:
On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:





Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics of
thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
penetrate hurricanes?


In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. *Does such a book already exist?


I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).

Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.

One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
*Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.
Ken- Hide quoted text -

You're an Oke?

Cheers
  #23  
Old May 8th 08, 09:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
WingFlaps
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
:







On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics of
thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft

that
penetrate hurricanes?


In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. *Does such a book already exist?


I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).


Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.


One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
*Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.


He's back! Let the bull**** low!


That's either very clever or a typo :-)
LOL

Cheers
  #24  
Old May 9th 08, 12:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default weather for pilots?

WingFlaps wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-a329-
:

On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
:







On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff

you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics

of
thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated

weather
observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft

that
penetrate hurricanes?


In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a

book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. *Does such a book already exist?


I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have

already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been

thinking

about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).


Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.


One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
*Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.


He's back! Let the bull**** low!


That's either very clever or a typo :-)
LOL



Typo, unfortunately.


Bertie

  #25  
Old May 9th 08, 12:54 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
WingFlaps
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 9, 11:26*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-a329-
:





On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:4f309f8d-a83f-
:


On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff

you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The physics

of
thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviation
forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated

weather
observations? *And how about the meteorological research aircraft
that
penetrate hurricanes?


In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a

book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. *Does such a book already exist?


I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have

already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been

thinking

about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).


Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.


One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
*Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.


He's back! Let the bull**** low!


That's either very clever or a typo :-)
LOL


Typo, unfortunately.

Ah, such honesty and humility. Maxine will hate that answer!
;-)
Cheers

  #26  
Old May 9th 08, 12:57 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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Default weather for pilots?

WingFlaps wrote in news:764ea8cf-fd15-4f95-9c67-
:

On May 9, 11:26*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
WingFlaps wrote in news:f18c898d-fe30-4421-

a329-
:





On May 9, 5:11*am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Ken S. Tucker" wrote in news:4f309f8d-

a83f-
:


On May 6, 10:57 pm, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest

in
weather as it relates to aviation? *I don't mean just the stuff

you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written

but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? *The

physics
of
thunderstorms? *Turbulence? * Fog and clouds? *How are aviatio

n
forecasts prepared? *What is the technology behind automated

weather
observations? *And how about the meteorological research

aircraft
that
penetrate hurricanes?


In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a

book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically

minded
pilot. *Does such a book already exist?


I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have

already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. *I've been

thinking

about the above book as my next possible project, but would

only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


Weather is to a pilot as water is to a fish.
(you may quote me ;-).


Understandably weather in ground school was quite
superficial, as pilots are generally not academically
inclined, where alot of algebra is concerned, however
they tend to think in visualizations so use diagrams,
and comics. Vectors and vector analysis (without
calculus) is as deep as I'd go with GA pilots.


One of my hobbies is to watch the contrails as they
fade for signs of turbulence. I live near the Rockies
and right inside an airway so lots of jets fly high over.
*Also have a great view of final approach south into
Kelowna, going down the okenagan valley.


He's back! Let the bull**** low!


That's either very clever or a typo :-)
LOL


Typo, unfortunately.

Ah, such honesty and humility. Maxine will hate that answer!
;-)
Cheers



Nah, he'll just come up with another gay lame. It's what he does.

Bertie
  #27  
Old May 9th 08, 02:56 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Michael Henry[_2_]
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Default weather for pilots?

Qzectb wrote:

In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?


I recently purchased this book:

Manual of Aviation Meteorology
http://www.fishpond.com.au/product_info/11487011/

....but so far I've found that it gives pretty light treatment to the
subject. For example the chapter on "Temperature" is only two pages!
"Air Pressure" and "Atmospheric Density" are each four pages long. I'm
certainly not looking for long-winded explanations but when I fork out
$80 for a book about Aviation Meteorology my expectations are a bit
higher than this.

I think the inclusion of some exercises to reinforce the learning would
be helpful. "Real-world" examples are always good.

Regards,

Michael
  #28  
Old May 14th 08, 02:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Margy Natalie
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Default weather for pilots?

Jay Honeck wrote:
In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?



I would personally find such a book interesting.

Unfortunately, with pilot numbers dropping, I suspect your efforts
wouldn't get you on the NY Times best-seller list...

I have the good fortune of having a daughter who is a meteorlogist (as
is her boyfriend). We were flying and saw this really wierd cloud. We
were having dinner with them that evening (not bad considering I only
see the kid about 5 time a year) and they had the cloud named in a few
minutes and said "That's really weird that you saw that as it only
occurs at the point of a wind shear and the shear usually takes all the
moisture out of the cloud". Once I told them we were over a lake at the
time they just nodded and said "local moisture source". the cloud
looked like a corkscrew laying on it's side. If I'd had a clue I would
have climbed 2,000 feet and avoided having my teeth knocked around!

Margy
  #29  
Old May 14th 08, 03:58 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 7, 1:57 am, Qzectb wrote:
Are there readers in this newsgroup who have a strong interest in
weather as it relates to aviation? I don't mean just the stuff you
need to get from point A to B safely or to pass your written but
deeper knowledge -- where and why does icing occur? The physics of
thunderstorms? Turbulence? Fog and clouds? How are aviation
forecasts prepared? What is the technology behind automated weather
observations? And how about the meteorological research aircraft that
penetrate hurricanes?

In a nutshell, I'm trying to gauge the potential interest in a book
that would satisfy the curiosity of the more scientifically minded
pilot. Does such a book already exist?

I'm both a pilot and a professor of meteorology, and I have already
written a couple of successful college textbooks. I've been thinking
about the above book as my next possible project, but would only
bother if I had a sense that there was real interest.


This is a great idea, and I would buy it. I am also a pilot and
professor (not meteorology) and would love to read an indepth analysis
of weather for aviation. Most aviation weather books regurgitate
information instead of providing scientific insights or explaining why
things happen. The best I could find so far was the American
Meteorological Society's Online Weather Studies course, but that is
not particularly geared towards aviation.


  #30  
Old May 14th 08, 04:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Andrew Sarangan
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Default weather for pilots?

On May 7, 7:58 pm, Qzectb wrote:
On May 7, 10:52 am, "Bob Gardner" wrote:

Befor you go overboard, log ontonwww.chesavtraining.comtosee what
meteorologist/flight instructor Scott Dennstaedt is doing. He writes for


Okay, that's the kind of heads-up I was looking for. Looks like he
knows his stuff.

Thanks...


I only viewed the sample lesson on that site, but I still think there
is room for a book like the one you suggested.

For example, the first lesson talks about icing in cumulus clouds
being greater than in stratus. What would be insightful is to explain
why, not just remind us of the facts. Detailed explanations may turn
off many pilots, but I am sure there are some who would find this
useful. In any case, like other have mentioned, I doubt the market
will be large, but I am sure you already knew that. If you are looking
to write a book that every pilot would buy, then I am afraid this may
not be a exercise worth your time. But if you are going to write
something with detailed analysis and explanations, sign me up.



 




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