Dead Stick Landings

I have. My own fault. Ran out of fuel. No physical damage to the
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Gene Seibel
Hangar 131 - http://pad39a.com/gene/plane.html
Because I fly, I envy no one.


"Rocky" wrote in message
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Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced
an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done
quite
a few of them. Some were intentional, some were during training, and
some happened at the most inopportune time with mechanical failures
of
one sort or other. This included helicopters and airplanes.

I have. Outside of traning, I've lost 7 engines in about 7 thousand hours.
Four failures were in three twins, 3 failures were in singles, and all were
landed on a paved airports. 4 of the five airports had a bar. 1 of the
single failures was night/IFR/over mauntains. One of the twins, it was both
engines(fuel ice). One of my first instructors once said "Luck is where
opportunity meets preparation". Al Gerharter CFIAMI



"Rocky" wrote in message
om...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done quite
a few of them. Some were intentional, some were during training, and
some happened at the most inopportune time with mechanical failures of
one sort or other. This included helicopters and airplanes.

"Rocky" wrote in message
om...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done quite
a few of them. Some were intentional, some were during training, and
some happened at the most inopportune time with mechanical failures of
one sort or other. This included helicopters and airplanes.

When I was taking some aerobatic dual. I'm no lightweight and my CFI
was heavier. With the two of us AND parachutes in the 150 Aerobat more than
40 minutes fuel pushed us over MGW. On more than one occasion, the prop quit
spinning because we were both having too much fun to watch the clock. The
first time it happened in a snap-roll and I had to recover from inverted.
Except for once, we were always within glide range of the airport. Density
altitude got me that day. Landed on a good dirt road, not a problem. The CFI
made me walk back and get a can of gas.
Funny you should mention gliders. I've never made an off-field landing.

(Rocky) wrote in message . com...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done quite
a few of them.

Then why don't you go first?

I could be mistaken, but I'm smelling 'troll' here.

Cheers,
Sydney

"Snowbird" wrote in message
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(Rocky) wrote in message
. com...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done quite
a few of them.

Then why don't you go first?

I could be mistaken, but I'm smelling 'troll' here.


I was thinking sorta the same thing..... But I'll bite anyway. I've had one
real engine-out and an estimated 50 to 75 intentional prop-stopped flights
(I've lost count actually). The real one was simpler/easier to handle than
most of the intentional ones. Hope my next real one is as uneventful.....

LS
AC fun racer 503.

Cheers,
Sydney

"Rocky" wrote in message
om...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing?

I flew for 26 years, mostly professionally, and never had a catastrophic
failure of anything. Just lucky, I guess.

JG

I did fly gliders for awhile. Then, after I'd acquired about 250 hours asel,
during a BFR in a 182, we were at 400 feet on takeoff when my instructor
reached over and took the key out of the mag switch.

I turned 180 but not back to the runway (that would have been 270) and
landed on a taxiway.

I have two friends who made successful landings after catasrophic engine
failures. One put his 182 onto a landfill, damaging only the wheelpants. The
other turned 180 on takeoff at 600 feet in a Tiger and parked it neatly on
the runway -- three pax, no airframe damage, and she now wears the melted
exhaust valve mushroom, in a silver setting, on chain around her neck.

Seth
Comanche N8100R

"Rocky" wrote in message
om...
Aside from glider pilots.... how many of you have ever experienced an
engine out dead stick landing? Care to talk about it? I've done quite
a few of them. Some were intentional, some were during training, and
some happened at the most inopportune time with mechanical failures of
one sort or other. This included helicopters and airplanes.

I don't understand how you can pull a 180 from only 400' with no engine
power.

"altekocker" wrote in message
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I did fly gliders for awhile. Then, after I'd acquired about 250 hours
asel,
during a BFR in a 182, we were at 400 feet on takeoff when my instructor
reached over and took the key out of the mag switch.

I turned 180 but not back to the runway (that would have been 270) and
landed on a taxiway.

In my 182 I can do a 180 in 350 feet, and that's only with a 45 degree
bank. It then takes another 100 feet to get lined back up with the
runway you took off on. The best bank angle is 60 degrees but I think
that may be a little tough to do in an emergency. So at an unfamiliar
airport I use 500 feet as my turnaround altitude in case of an engine
failure.

Yossarian wrote:
I don't understand how you can pull a 180 from only 400' with no engine
power.

"altekocker" wrote in message
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I did fly gliders for awhile. Then, after I'd acquired about 250 hours

asel,

during a BFR in a 182, we were at 400 feet on takeoff when my instructor
reached over and took the key out of the mag switch.

I turned 180 but not back to the runway (that would have been 270) and
landed on a taxiway.

That's right at the ragged edge, so I'd say very carefully and pray.

Big John


On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 05:09:52 GMT, "Yossarian"
wrote:

I don't understand how you can pull a 180 from only 400' with no engine
power.

"altekocker" wrote in message
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I did fly gliders for awhile. Then, after I'd acquired about 250 hours
asel,
during a BFR in a 182, we were at 400 feet on takeoff when my instructor
reached over and took the key out of the mag switch.

I turned 180 but not back to the runway (that would have been 270) and
landed on a taxiway.