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Nyal Williams wrote:
Sell them in France; ship them over, get them certified for 12,000hrs there, and re-import with a French POH and fly experimental. You line up the buyers and I'll provide the aircraft. Well, at least the first one or two. :-) Jeremy (only half kidding) |
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Hey guys,
I'm from France, a member a certain california club that has a grounded Pegasus, and have a cousin who's a lawyer in the south of France. If you are seriously interested in pursuing this, I could get in touch with said cousin and find out whether this is anywhere near his area of expertise and how much it would cost to have him work on it. After that, if things seem to line up and he thinks there is some hope through the legal route, he can things forward. So, if there is serious interest, and someone wants to coordinate this (collecting money from 50 owners, etc), I'll make the initial phone calls to assess whether it's worth pushing forward. Francois On Jan 4, 1:11 pm, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: Nyal Williams wrote: Sell them in France; ship them over, get them certified for 12,000hrs there, and re-import with a French POH and fly experimental.You line up the buyers and I'll provide the aircraft. Well, at least the first one or two. :-) Jeremy (only half kidding) |
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OK, let's try a little advertising:
New Category Gliders! ---- CLIPPED WING PEGASUS All interested, inquire within. ------------------------------------------- At 21:12 04 January 2007, Jeremy Zawodny wrote: Nyal Williams wrote: Sell them in France; ship them over, get them certified for 12,000hrs there, and re-import with a French POH and fly experimental. You line up the buyers and I'll provide the aircraft. Well, at least the first one or two. :-) Jeremy (only half kidding) |
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It is indeed an unfortunate situation. The Peg's a nice ship. It
seems to me that Centrair's reluctance would be primarily economic. They no longer need the US soaring community as a customer base and they have a regulatory sunset in place for the 51 STC'd birds that are in the high liability US market. Sounds like a "get out of jail free" card to me. The class action route is likely to be expensive and there may be statutes of limitations that restrict what can be done, etc. If you valued each airframe at $15k that's still only $765k for the lot of them. Rounding up to an even mil. for the whole thing, it's still no more than a couple of personal injury cases would cost. On a larger scale, Beechcraft bought up nearly the entire fleet of Starships and destroyed them for similar reasons if I understand correctly. The French market may be the best bet if the Pegasus reverts to the higher hour limit upon re-registration. Are there other countries where this might work? If so it would spread out the number of ships flooding the market. The weak dollar doesn't help either. Sorry to hear the bad news. So Tom, I'm assuming the weather in Idaho has been crummy and you were just trolling to see what would come to the surface or do you have a dog in the fight? Best regards, Craig |
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fbrahic wrote:
Hey guys, I'm from France, a member a certain california club that has a grounded Pegasus, and have a cousin who's a lawyer in the south of France. If you are seriously interested in pursuing this, I could get in touch with said cousin and find out whether this is anywhere near his area of expertise and how much it would cost to have him work on it. After that, if things seem to line up and he thinks there is some hope through the legal route, he can things forward. So, if there is serious interest, and someone wants to coordinate this (collecting money from 50 owners, etc), I'll make the initial phone calls to assess whether it's worth pushing forward. I suspect that's far more work and difficult to coordinate than simply selling the 3,000+ hour ships in a foreign marketplace. Jeremy |
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On Jan 5, 6:02 pm, "Craig" wrote: Beechcraft bought up nearly the entire fleet of Starships and destroyed them for similar reasons if I understand correctly. Depending on how old the image is, there are still 28 Starships he http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...04973&t=k&om=1 |
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Got yer Pegasus right here, 623 hours, only minor damage:
Add your wings, fuselage, and tail and be ready to go in no time: http://www.aigaviation.com/salvage/N...vageN31DT.aspx |
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Craig wrote:
... The French market may be the best bet if the Pegasus reverts to the higher hour limit upon re-registration. Are there other countries where this might work? If so it would spread out the number of ships flooding the market. The weak dollar doesn't help either. Sorry to hear the bad news. ... If I correctly understand the European regulations, it should work in any contry member of the European Union. |
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What about Canada? I have no idea and don't own a Peg but maybe there
is some FAA loophole if you export the ship to Canada and then re-import it under a new registration and air worthiness cert. Just a thought. Canada wouldn't be a terrible distance to drive. On Jan 5, 6:02 pm, "Craig" wrote: It is indeed an unfortunate situation. The Peg's a nice ship. It seems to me that Centrair's reluctance would be primarily economic. They no longer need the US soaring community as a customer base and they have a regulatory sunset in place for the 51 STC'd birds that are in the high liability US market. Sounds like a "get out of jail free" card to me. The class action route is likely to be expensive and there may be statutes of limitations that restrict what can be done, etc. If you valued each airframe at $15k that's still only $765k for the lot of them. Rounding up to an even mil. for the whole thing, it's still no more than a couple of personal injury cases would cost. On a larger scale, Beechcraft bought up nearly the entire fleet of Starships and destroyed them for similar reasons if I understand correctly. The French market may be the best bet if the Pegasus reverts to the higher hour limit upon re-registration. Are there other countries where this might work? If so it would spread out the number of ships flooding the market. The weak dollar doesn't help either. Sorry to hear the bad news. So Tom, I'm assuming the weather in Idaho has been crummy and you were just trolling to see what would come to the surface or do you have a dog in the fight? Best regards, Craig |
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