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Piper Cub Vs F-15
It is hard to believe that F-15 can fly formation with Piper Cub.
http://www.pipercubforum.com/intercep.htm Do F-15 fly by wire system prevent the aircraft from stalling at that low speed? Last time I saw an aircraft with fly by wire system did such a stunt, Airbus plowed right in to the forest at the end of the forest! Emilio. |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:13:15 -0500, "Emilio"
wrote: It is hard to believe that F-15 can fly formation with Piper Cub. http://www.pipercubforum.com/intercep.htm Do F-15 fly by wire system prevent the aircraft from stalling at that low speed? Last time I saw an aircraft with fly by wire system did such a stunt, Airbus plowed right in to the forest at the end of the forest! Emilio. First, lets note that a Piper Cub (usually a J-3) is one thing and a Cessna 172 is another. The J-3 would be cruising at 65-75 MPH while the 172 might be doing closer to 120-140. Since the Eagle can come over the fence on landing at 130 KIAS or thereabout, it isn't too tough to dump flaps and throw up the barn door, then load up the big engines to hang on them at low speed. Not comfy, but easily doable. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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"Emilio" wrote in message
... It is hard to believe that F-15 can fly formation with Piper Cub. http://www.pipercubforum.com/intercep.htm Do F-15 fly by wire system prevent the aircraft from stalling at that low speed? Last time I saw an aircraft with fly by wire system did such a stunt, Airbus plowed right in to the forest at the end of the forest! That was more to do with the poor planning and complacency of the pilots than the FBW system. John |
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"Ed Rasimus" wrote in message ... First, lets note that a Piper Cub (usually a J-3) is one thing and a Cessna 172 is another. Actually, I think you'll find a Piper Cub is always a J-3. |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 17:28:43 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote: "Ed Rasimus" wrote in message .. . First, lets note that a Piper Cub (usually a J-3) is one thing and a Cessna 172 is another. Actually, I think you'll find a Piper Cub is always a J-3. While a "Piper Cub" may not be a Taylorcraft or an Aeronca, I've seen it applied quite comfortably to a J-4 and (IIRC) J-6. They probably had a proper corporate nomenclature, but as canvas-sided, tail-dragging, Continental-powered, products of Piper Aircraft, they pretty much got stuck with the moniker. I got my first flying lessons and solo hours in a J-3 and wish fervently that I owned one today. Not much good for travel, but it was easy to "dance the sky" and the yellow aero-doped wings were pretty easy to "laughter-silver." Got my first (student) license supension and grounding flying a PA-22 Colt. And passed my Private license check flight in a PA-18 Super Cub--damn complex, it had a radio and flaps! Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
... "Emilio" wrote in message ... It is hard to believe that F-15 can fly formation with Piper Cub. http://www.pipercubforum.com/intercep.htm Do F-15 fly by wire system prevent the aircraft from stalling at that low speed? Last time I saw an aircraft with fly by wire system did such a stunt, Airbus plowed right in to the forest at the end of the forest! That was more to do with the poor planning and complacency of the pilots than the FBW system. John The pilots had a) ignored the 'low altitude' warning, b) thought they were flying at 100 feet rather than the actual 30, and c) hadn't anticipated or allowed for the delay in pushing the throttle and the engines actually responding. |
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On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 11:53:35 -0600, Ed Rasimus
proclaimed: Not much good for travel, but it was easy to "dance the sky" and the yellow aero-doped wings were pretty easy to "laughter-silver." "laughter-silver." is a term I'm not familiar with. Care to enlighten me? |
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"Emilio" wrote in message ... It is hard to believe that F-15 can fly formation with Piper Cub. http://www.pipercubforum.com/intercep.htm Only for the split second it takes for the Eagle to overrun the Pooper. At all other times, it's either rapidly overtaking or rapidly leaving the Pooper in its dust. (^-^))) George Z. |
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Emilio wrote:
Do F-15 fly by wire system prevent the aircraft from stalling at that low speed? Last time I saw an aircraft with fly by wire system did such a stunt, Airbus plowed right in to the forest at the end of the forest! The F15 does not have what avionics people think of as fly-by-wire. In fly-by-wire the control surfaces are moved by the computer alone, which integrates control inputs (pilots suggestions) with the aircrafts position in the flight envelope (the sensed environment). In fly-by-wire there is no mechanical connection between the pilot and the control surfaces. The F-15 has hydromechanical connections between the pilots controls and the ailerons, stabilators and rudders. What the F-15 does have is a stability augmentation system. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...raft/f-15e.htm The first production fly-by-wire aircraft was the F-16. |
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