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Keeping the Hangar Clear of Snow
Not that I want any more people moving to Arizona, but Arizona is a lot more
than hot summer desert. We also have mountains, canyons and high grasslands all having their own unique climates. I can drive 45 minutes south from Tucson and be dry and 90 instead of dry and 105. I can drive 45 minutes and be at the top of a 9000' mountain in pines, aspens and firs with temps in the 70's. In the summer you pick the cooler destinations and in winter the warmer. Using an airplane we can fly VFR to many of those kinds of places all year round. We may miss our $100 hamburger 3 or 4 times a year because of weather. Here it's hard to justify buying a 396. -- Best Regards, Mike http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel "Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:gl7of.630053$_o.98247@attbi_s71... I'll tell you what -- if this crazy fall is any indication of what winter will bring, I'll be with you 100%... Choose carefully. Last Friday, the Texas stockbroker on NPR said it was 15 degrees down there. And they get hurricanes there and in the southeast, so you don't want to go there. Maybe Arizona? Just so I can broil from April till October? Nah. Maybe someday, when I can be a snowbird, but I couldn't stand living there year 'round. My eyes just crave the intense green of spring in the Midwest, after a week in the desert. Kinda like this: http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...air%206-05.jpg and this: http://alexisparkinn.com/photogaller...%20%206-05.jpg I don't think there is a perfect climate, outside of Southern California -- and that area has pretty much been ruined, sadly. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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You can fly around the island you are on. Every island has at least one
airport. Oahu, Maui and Hawaii have several. And you can fly from island to island. But once you do all that, there isn't much of anywhere else you can fly that is within range. Nothing at all for thousands of miles (well there is Midway, with one airport). My sister lives on Oahu and she has neither heat nor air conditioning in her house. It's a nice climate, and a lot of variety (desert, jungle, mountains and beaches), but there is NO PLACE TO GO. I get island fever. Also, aluminum corrodes something fierce over there. My sisters window frames all have white aluminum dust on the bottom tracks. It's scary to think what would happen to an aluminum plane in that environment. There are, however, some GA aircraft and at least three flight schools in the state. |
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In article gl7of.630053$_o.98247@attbi_s71,
"Jay Honeck" wrote: Choose carefully. Last Friday, the Texas stockbroker on NPR said it was 15 degrees down there. And they get hurricanes there and in the southeast, so you don't want to go there. Maybe Arizona? Just so I can broil from April till October? Nah. Maybe someday, when I can be a snowbird, but I couldn't stand living there year 'round. My eyes just crave the intense green of spring in the Midwest, after a week in the desert. Remember last month or so, Jay was discussing finding a second lodging site to invest in, somewhere in the south? Now we know exactly why! |
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wrote in message
oups.com... Jay Honeck wrote: I don't think there is a perfect climate, outside of Southern California -- and that area has pretty much been ruined, sadly. ain't that the truth. My friend who lives there has a house with no a/c and no insulation, and they don't need either, and their backyard really is part of their everyday living space, basically all year round. Then you leave their house to drive somewhere and oh crap. And they probably paid something like $1.7 million for 800sqft of living space, didn't they? (I'm being a smart ass ... sort of ... it's this willingness our friends to the west have when it comes to paying way too much for way too little that's really screwing up the Phoenix market right now.) Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ |
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Doug wrote:
You can fly around the island you are on. Every island has at least one airport. Oahu, Maui and Hawaii have several. And you can fly from island to island. But once you do all that, there isn't much of anywhere else you can fly that is within range. Nothing at all for thousands of miles (well there is Midway, with one airport). My sister lives on Oahu and she has neither heat nor air conditioning in her house. It's a nice climate, and a lot of variety (desert, jungle, mountains and beaches), but there is NO PLACE TO GO. I get island fever. Also, aluminum corrodes something fierce over there. My sisters window frames all have white aluminum dust on the bottom tracks. It's scary to think what would happen to an aluminum plane in that environment. There are, however, some GA aircraft and at least three flight schools in the state. The topic was keeping the hangar clear of snow. In Hawaii this isn't a problem. Matt |
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Jay Beckman wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... Jay Honeck wrote: I don't think there is a perfect climate, outside of Southern California -- and that area has pretty much been ruined, sadly. ain't that the truth. My friend who lives there has a house with no a/c and no insulation, and they don't need either, and their backyard really is part of their everyday living space, basically all year round. Then you leave their house to drive somewhere and oh crap. And they probably paid something like $1.7 million for 800sqft of living space, didn't they? And even funnier is that they measure their lot sizes in the same units as their house sizes ... square feet. I thought that was a joke when an employee brought back a real estate listing from Garden Grove a few years ago when I had to transfer him out there. Matt |
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On 12/15/2005 15:35, Matt Whiting wrote:
Doug wrote: You can fly around the island you are on. Every island has at least one airport. Oahu, Maui and Hawaii have several. And you can fly from island to island. But once you do all that, there isn't much of anywhere else you can fly that is within range. Nothing at all for thousands of miles (well there is Midway, with one airport). My sister lives on Oahu and she has neither heat nor air conditioning in her house. It's a nice climate, and a lot of variety (desert, jungle, mountains and beaches), but there is NO PLACE TO GO. I get island fever. Also, aluminum corrodes something fierce over there. My sisters window frames all have white aluminum dust on the bottom tracks. It's scary to think what would happen to an aluminum plane in that environment. There are, however, some GA aircraft and at least three flight schools in the state. The topic was keeping the hangar clear of snow. In Hawaii this isn't a problem. Except perhaps black snow ... but I guess that isn't freezing ;-) Matt -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane Sacramento, CA |
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"Jim Burns" wrote in message news Hi Jim, Urea is 46% N. Not necessarily. It is cut with water at the manufacturing plant. The stuff that goes to feedlots is usually 70%... sometimes 50%. The higher concentrations "salt out" faster and solidify. IIRCC 70% salts out at + or - 134 deg. F. it is hauled in insulated trailers, usually with a steam coil inside like asphalt trailer have. The trailers are usually stainless. We buy and use it by the truck load on the farm. How in the heck can you afford it? :' ) Some time when you don't have anything better to do, stop by your local fertilizer co-op. Take a look at their trucks or ask them to see the equipment that they spread or haul urea with. If it isn't wood, plastic, stainless steel, or brand new it will have corrosion, pitting, and rust. If aluminum wasn't affected by urea, we'd use aluminum tanks, hoppers, mixers, conveyors and augers rather than stainless, everything would be a LOT lighter. Granted, urea isn't AS corrosive as phosphates and potassiums, but urea by itself will corrode aluminum. It will corrode copper. It will corrode steel. I've got plenty of equipment around here that is specifically used to handle urea and other nitrogen fertilizers that can testify to that. An airplane makes a well balanced diet for urea. The piping, exchanger tubes, and vessels are usually 316 or 304 stainless in the manufacturing facilities just for the reasons you cite. Joe Schneider Cherokee 8437R ex-Urea plant operator & poor farmer / rancher who can't afford to top dress his wheat this spring. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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"Mike Noel" wrote in message
... Not that I want any more people moving to Arizona, but Arizona is a lot more than hot summer desert. We also have mountains, canyons and high grasslands all having their own unique climates. I can drive 45 minutes south from Tucson and be dry and 90 instead of dry and 105. I can drive 45 minutes and be at the top of a 9000' mountain in pines, aspens and firs with temps in the 70's. In the summer you pick the cooler destinations and in winter the warmer. Using an airplane we can fly VFR to many of those kinds of places all year round. We may miss our $100 hamburger 3 or 4 times a year because of weather. Here it's hard to justify buying a 396. -- Best Regards, Mike Mike, Sssssssssshhhhhhhhh, You'll give away all our secrets! (FWIW, there is an outstanding show that pops up from time to time on the Hi-Def network "INHD" called Above Arizona: An Aerial Tour. It's a fabulous showcase of the diversity to which Mike aludes.) Jay Beckman PP-ASEL AZ Cloudbusters Chandler, AZ |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Doug wrote: You can fly around the island you are on. Every island has at least one airport. Oahu, Maui and Hawaii have several. And you can fly from island to island. But once you do all that, there isn't much of anywhere else you can fly that is within range. Nothing at all for thousands of miles (well there is Midway, with one airport). My sister lives on Oahu and she has neither heat nor air conditioning in her house. It's a nice climate, and a lot of variety (desert, jungle, mountains and beaches), but there is NO PLACE TO GO. I get island fever. Also, aluminum corrodes something fierce over there. My sisters window frames all have white aluminum dust on the bottom tracks. It's scary to think what would happen to an aluminum plane in that environment. There are, however, some GA aircraft and at least three flight schools in the state. The topic was keeping the hangar clear of snow. In Hawaii this isn't a problem. Matt Problem solved. |
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