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Old September 4th 06, 02:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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Jay, if you haven't visited a TRACON, please line up a visit, talk to
the fine folks, watch them do their job, then tell me why requiring them
to dress up is a good idea.


The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like
bums.

But, in truth, it's not an issue of whether dressing up (or down) is a
good idea -- it's the fact that the union seems to think they have the
right to dress however they please. If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?
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Old September 4th 06, 02:26 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Stefan
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Jay Honeck schrieb:

But, in truth, it's not an issue of whether dressing up (or down) is a
good idea -- it's the fact that the union seems to think they have the
right to dress however they please.


I think that, too.

If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?


I wouldn't allow my empoyer to dictate how I have to dress, either.

Stefan
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Old September 5th 06, 01:10 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Stefan" wrote in message
...
Jay Honeck schrieb:

But, in truth, it's not an issue of whether dressing up (or down) is a
good idea -- it's the fact that the union seems to think they have the
right to dress however they please.


I think that, too.

If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?


I wouldn't allow my empoyer to dictate how I have to dress, either.

Stefan


Your employer would have every right to teminate your employment if a dress
was established and you did not comply.


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Old September 4th 06, 02:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message oups.com...
: Jay, if you haven't visited a TRACON, please line up a visit, talk to
: the fine folks, watch them do their job, then tell me why requiring them
: to dress up is a good idea.
:
: The fact that tours can be arranged argues for them to not look like
: bums.
:

These guys are not dressed like bums. Since when is shorts and flip flops dressing like a bum? Maybe a surfer dude...




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Old September 4th 06, 02:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck
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These guys are not dressed like bums. Since when is shorts and flip flops dressing like a bum? Maybe a surfer dude...

I guess we Iowans have better-dressed bums than you do...

:-)
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Old September 4th 06, 05:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay:

Last time I saw you, you were wearing shorts only- no shoes or even a shirt.
(Of course, it was in a pool) In fact, I'm glad you kept your shorts on.

Does this mean we should expect formal wear the next time we stay at your
place? Or, should everyone be naked?

Just a thought.


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Old September 5th 06, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steven P. McNicoll[_1_]
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I guess we Iowans have better-dressed bums than you do...

:-)


Why do you allow your employees to dress like bums?


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Old September 4th 06, 03:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On 4 Sep 2006 06:20:32 -0700, "Jay Honeck" wrote
in .com:

If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?


I failed to find any mention of a grievance in what you posted.

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Old September 4th 06, 03:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Jay Honeck wrote:
If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?


It doesn't say anything. Union membership is plummeting. We have only
3 out of 18 here. Mostly because of issues like this. We might have 1
left that belongs to the union next March, the only month you can quit
the union, by the way.
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Old September 4th 06, 05:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jose[_1_]
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If an employer can't even set a
dress code without inciting a union grievance, what does that say about
the attitude of their employees?


If the employer is setting and enforcing a dress code for people who
work in the back room, what does that say about the employer? I frankly
don't care if they work naked.

Jose
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