Pilot's Political Orientation

The overwhelming majority of abortions are murder.

Some isn't all. Even "most" isn't all. And all is is.

Jose

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"Teacherjh" wrote in message
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Some isn't all. Even "most" isn't all. And all is is.


That's the kind of response we've come to expect from you. It's good to
know some things in this world never change.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

The overwhelming majority of abortions are murder.

Murder is a legal definition made by the State. NOT by you. Abortions are NOT murder.

George Patterson
None of us is as dumb as all of us.

I did not specify which killing was and which killing was not.

That is clear, and the reason I asked the question of you. From your
less than informative reply, I will conclude that you decline further
clarification of when you meant to imply.


Yes, I decline to elaborate (as to exactly which killings constitute murder)
because
1: it is not relevant to the newsgroup. (in fact, even this post is way OT)
2: it would serve primatily to inflame rather than inform, because there is no
"line" between good and evil, just a gradation (and sometimes it's not even
that clear)
3: the answer (or my answer anyway) isn't interesting, rather, the reasoning
that leads to the conclusion is what is interesting. That discussion can go on
forever.

My main point was just that the question isn't as simple as the answer that was
presented.

Jose


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Some isn't all. Even "most" isn't all. And all is is.

That's the kind of response we've come to expect from you. It's good to
know some things in this world never change.


Only to your posts.

Jose

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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Murder is a legal definition made by the State. NOT by you. Abortions
are NOT murder.


I suppose in the strictest sense they're not, as the purpose of the abortion
is just to terminate a pregnancy. But as every effective method of abortion
tends to result in the death of a human being there's no question that
abortion is murder.

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message
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Murder is a legal definition made by the State. NOT by you. Abortions
are NOT murder.


I suppose in the strictest sense they're not, as the purpose of the
abortion
is just to terminate a pregnancy. But as every effective method of
abortion
tends to result in the death of a human being there's no question that
abortion is murder.

Except a fetus is not a human being...it's a fetus. A human being is an
autonomous being and a fetus is just the opposite.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Except a fetus is not a human being...it's a fetus. A human being is an
autonomous being and a fetus is just the opposite.


In humans, a fetus is the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after
conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo.
A fetus is a human being.

On Sun, 20 Jun 2004 03:41:19 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote in Message-Id:
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In humans, a fetus is the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after
conception to the moment of birth

Can you cite an authoritative source for that notion?


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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
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Except a fetus is not a human being...it's a fetus. A human being is an
autonomous being and a fetus is just the opposite.


In humans, a fetus is the unborn young from the end of the eighth week
after
conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier
embryo.

Nice lesson in biology, but totally irrelevant.

A fetus is a human being.

A fetus is a fetus and will remain a fetus until it's an autonomous being.
Prior to that, it's an appendage of the mother.

You can call a leg and arm, but until it has fingers rather than toes, it's
still a leg. The operative word here, in a legal, rather than biological
sense, is AUTOMOMOUS.