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I will have Peach Muzzleloader at Oshkosh again this year for those adults
who are not flying ,walking,standing ,speaking or in any way engaged in any activity that might be construed as to needing moral advice before sipping . I now return to lurk mode to prepare for Oshkosh. Chuck, you are hereby elected honorary and chief muzzleloader for our annual Rec.Aviation North Forty party, to be held on (I think) Wednesday night during the show at our campsite. (For those who don't know, simply give the EAA North Forty camping folks our "N" number, and they'll tell you precisely where to go...) Last year we had quite a little turnout for this soiree (see the pix at http://alexisparkinn.com/rogue's_gallery_i_-_p.htm#OSHKOSH -- ya gotta scroll down a bit), with plenty of people bringing most excellent beer -- but none of this legendary peach muzzleloader I keep hearing about! ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
Oh man. Jay, can I move to your world? Mine is starting to suck with all the law suits happy people around here. Come to Iowa, Richard. America still exists here. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Well thank you, Jay. If I ever get out of this mess, I might just do that. You can take the boy out of Texas, but you can't take Texas out of the boy. And if you could, there wouldn't be much left... Richard http://home.earthlink.net/~n6228l/ |
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:i_5Dc.182216$Ly.114@attbi_s01... Rich, I'm buying the first round! ;-) You comin' to OSH? Wow! After reading Chuck's promise to have PMZLDR available, I am sorely tempted. There are two great friends who are within weeks of finishing their Emeraudes, and I want to be able to see them fly in to Oshkosh. They will not be there until next year, so I'm going to take a rain check. The Good Lord willing, I will join you all in 2005 and hope to meet more a lot of the people whose words I have been reading. I will hoist a cup at the proper moment and toast the fortunate ones who are slowly drowning in the pasture. :-) Rich S. |
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jls wrote:
and a citation to the source of those facts so they can be verified, rather than your (probably clouded) recollection. I have never seen a judgment awarded to an injured plaintiff when there wasn't some proof of negligence or defective design proximately causing the injury. Maybe you can show me my first. I won't hold my breath waiting. From AOPA e-mail news JUDGE DENIES CARNAHAN REQUEST FOR NEW TRIAL A Kansas City judge has refused to grant a new trial to the family of the late Missouri Gov. Mel Carnahan seeking punitive damages against the Parker Hannifin Company. In a ruling, Circuit Court Judge Charles Atwell said evidence supporting punitive damages was so weak he was reluctant to give it to a jury. An investigation into the crash of a twin-engine Cessna aircraft that killed Carnahan, his son Randy, and aide Chris Sifford on October 16, 2000, found vacuum pumps made by Parker Hannifin were working well enough for vacuum-driven instruments to give proper indications. The Carnahan family alleged, however, that Parker Hannifin earlier had refused to recall vacuum pumps it manufactured to save money. However, evidence also indicated the company reported pump failures to the FAA and also warned customers that pumps could fail and urged the use of backup pumps. The family sued for $100 million but a jury awarded $4 million from Parker Hannifin, an amount that was later reduced to $2.4 million. Sifford's family settled separately with Parker Hannifin, which no longer manufactures the pumps, for $905,000, according to press reports. To learn more about the lawsuit, read a previous column from "AOPA Pilot" ( http://www.aopa.org/epilot/redir.cfm?adid=4583 ). |
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You're kind of a bummer Matt. I'm surprised that you fly at all.
Ed |
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Richard Lamb wrote:
You can take the boy out of Texas, but you can't take Texas out of the boy. And if you could, there wouldn't be much left... Thats like a whole other country... |
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Richard Lamb wrote in message ...
Jay Honeck wrote: As much as I like the party-giver and join in complimenting him for his contributions in this and other newsgroups, it is risky to serve alcohol to anyone you know or have reason to know is about to operate dangerous machinery because of the dramshop cases and the dramshop laws. Whether the entertainment is done for pay or not is irrelevant. I appreciate the sentiment, but, alas, I don't care to live in a world where I can't serve my friends beer at pool side. I also refuse to live in a world where I cannot trust my fellow pilots with my $30K, full sized van. And no, I don't make them produce a drivers license, and sign a waiver, nor do I check to make sure that they have insurance. I toss 'em the keys, give 'em a map, and bid them adieu, liability be damned. If you have flown in to my hotel, that's proof enough to me that you are an honorable, decent person. No one has proven me wrong yet. People live up to your expectations. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Oh man. Jay, can I move to your world? Mine is starting to suck with all the law suits happy people around here. Richard Lamb Jay's the kind of great guy that got me into aviation in the first place. Matt however is the kind of guy I wouldn't lend a bicycle to. He'd go put new tires on it and bring it back, giving me the bill and lecturing me on how dangerous it was for him. Jay, just put up a sign at poolside that says: Warning: Patrons are not permitted to fly for 24 hours after consuming free alcoholic beverages. Caution: consumption of lava rocks after falling down can cause extreme discomfort and distress during future bowel movements....Notice: You are not required to buy B.S. from poolside turd-merchants in the airport hotel. The management does not condone their activities at all. Danger!.. Danger!... Danger Will Robinson! pac "fall artist assassin" plyer |
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Hope you take lots of pictures you can post somewhere! Wish I could be
there. I'm shooting for Oshkosh (sp?) next year. This year my wife and I will be going to the AOPA Expo in Long Beach (with a Friday night party on the Queen Mary). I DO have to check out Airventure next year. Every pilot I've every spoken to tells me it is THE place to be. I've heard some great stories about camping next to your plane with lots of other pilots doing the same thing - sounds like 'heaven' to me grin. Next year, I'll have to make the pilgrimage! Take care and have fun Jay! -- -- =----- Good Flights! Cecil PP-ASEL Student-IASEL Check out my personal flying adventures from my first flight to the checkride AND the continuing adventures beyond! Complete with pictures and text at: www.bayareapilot.com "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things." - Antoine de Saint-Exupery - "We who fly, do so for the love of flying. We are alive in the air with this miracle that lies in our hands and beneath our feet" - Cecil Day Lewis - |
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jls wrote: I have never seen a judgment awarded to an injured plaintiff when there wasn't some proof of negligence or defective design proximately causing the injury. You haven't been paying attention to the Parker-Hanefin case, I take it? George Patterson None of us is as dumb as all of us. |
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I've heard some great
stories about camping next to your plane with lots of other pilots doing the same thing - sounds like 'heaven' to me grin. "This ain't heaven...it's Oshkosh" OSH is the closest thing to heaven on earth I've found. I start dreaming about it in February, and start getting anxious in May. By now, I'm just crawling out of my skin, having a hard time waiting that one more month! Remember that feeling before Christmas, when you were a kid? That absolutely, can't-stand-the-wait feeling? That's Oshkosh! :-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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