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Old May 27th 08, 06:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
gliderguynj
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This weekend I was flying down to Ocean City NJ.... I was second in
pattern when someone came on the radio calling to the pilot on final
approach. Pilot on final, Pilot on final....you have the wrong freq.
We were flying, and didn't reply. He came on again, Pilot on Final
you have the wrong freq.... And repeated.

Apparently the "good samaritan" was thinking of Ocean City Md, which
has a different Freq. I finally got on and TX that we are on the
right Freq......

I have to admit, the whole thing was a bit distracting! My few
seconds of being distracted by this was enough to affect my pattern
alt. I understand the person was trying to be helpful but.....If the
pilot has already made it to final, why keep on TX'g? I mean the
pilot is on Final, let him/her concentrate on putting the plane down!
The person Tx'g wasn't on the field, didn't see what was going on and
was creating more of a situation than he was trying to help prevent.

It was a good lesson for me to try and tune out nonesense and just fly
the plane. I'm glad it was just a minor distraction like the radio
and in the future I'll be better prepared for a distraction in
pattern. So I guess I should say Thanks!

Doug
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Old May 27th 08, 07:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Steve Foley
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"gliderguynj" wrote in message
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I have to admit, the whole thing was a bit distracting!


The first time I took my brother for a ride, I had about ten hours as a
private pilot. As we were on final, he asked "What's that burning?".

I asked if it was inside the plane or outside. When he said "Outside - over
near the lake", my response was "I don't give a F*%& what it is right now".

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Old May 27th 08, 07:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Larry Dighera
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On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT), gliderguynj
wrote in
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I understand the person was trying to be helpful but.....


The FAA regulations and Advisory Circulars only mention broadcasting
position on CTAF. There is no mention of communicating air-to-air.

I know CTAF is being used for almost everything but that for which it
is intended. But that doesn't make it okay.

Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.

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Old May 28th 08, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dave[_5_]
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On May 27, 2:34*pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2008 10:15:57 -0700 (PDT), gliderguynj
wrote in
:

I understand the person was trying to be helpful but.....


The FAA regulations and Advisory Circulars only mention broadcasting
position on CTAF. *There is no mention of communicating air-to-air. *

I know CTAF is being used for almost everything but that for which it
is intended. *But that doesn't make it okay. *

Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.


I'd agree. Particularly annoying are these clods running around with
handheld radios - using them
to keep track of each other, coordinate lunch, etc - nothing
whatsoever to do with the safety of
flight. Sometimes it's better to to turn the radio off than listen to
the drivel.

Dave
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Old May 28th 08, 04:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.


I'd agree. Particularly annoying are these clods running around with
handheld radios - using them
to keep track of each other, coordinate lunch, etc - nothing
whatsoever to do with the safety of
flight. Sometimes it's better to to turn the radio off than listen to
the drivel.


One of the only upsides of GA flying declining is that there is far less of
that noise on the radio now. Personally, I'd like to suffer with the drivel
again.

I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

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Old May 28th 08, 04:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Maynard
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On 2008-05-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?
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Old May 29th 08, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Jay Honeck[_2_]
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I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the
field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?


I confess to making that announcement a couple of times, when I was a
newly-minted private pilot, as I passed over my home field. I think the
guys doing it are just so damned proud of their accomplishment that they
want their buds -- or anyone else listening -- to know that they're "up
there"...

It's really just silly.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"
"Jay Maynard" wrote in message
...
On 2008-05-28, Jay Honeck wrote:
I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the
field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?
--
Jay Maynard, K5ZC http://www.conmicro.com
http://jmaynard.livejournal.com http://www.tronguy.net
Fairmont, MN (FRM) (Yes, that's me!)
AMD Zodiac CH601XLi N55ZC (ordered 17 March, delivery 10 June)


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Old May 29th 08, 06:23 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Robert M. Gary
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On May 28, 8:49*am, Jay Maynard
wrote:
On 2008-05-28, Jay Honeck wrote:

I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


I hadn't heard that until I started listening to the Fairmont CTAF. What's
the point?


4500 feet is probably a bit high to announce but when I was flying the
Aeronca I would announce over flying fields because I was usually only
500 feet over pattern altitude (the Aeronca didn't like going high).
Its helpful to pilots entering and leaving the pattern to know there
is someone right above them.I would always try to cross directly over
if I had to fly by the airport because there is less traffic over the
top.

-Robert, CFII
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Old May 28th 08, 05:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Default Bothering a Pilot on Final

Jay Honeck wrote:
Personally, I limit my CTAF transmissions to announcing my position,
and nothing else.


I'd agree. Particularly annoying are these clods running around with
handheld radios - using them
to keep track of each other, coordinate lunch, etc - nothing
whatsoever to do with the safety of
flight. Sometimes it's better to to turn the radio off than listen to
the drivel.


One of the only upsides of GA flying declining is that there is far less
of that noise on the radio now. Personally, I'd like to suffer with the
drivel again.

I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the
field at 4500 feet, heading West..."


Or the folks that announce their position and say "anyone in the
pattern, please advise". How unnecessary if they listen before hand. The
FAA has stated in writing they do not like it. I think it is in the AIM.

--

Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
KSWI
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Old May 28th 08, 06:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dale[_3_]
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In article GYe%j.183758$yE1.50750@attbi_s21,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:



I really like are the guys who announce that they're "over-flying the field
at 4500 feet, heading West..."


Is that really so bad? Quite common to use an airport as a waypoint, by
making the announcement it may let the other guy at 4500 overflying know
to put the paper down.

In Canada that kind of report is required if there is a Mandatory Freq.
 




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