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"Dale Kramer" wrote... Some of your responses deserve no response, however: I will bet that unless your runway is in a 100 foot wide canyon, I can do a safe speed pass down one side of it. If there are buildings, cars, people, a town, etc., on one side of the runway (which is the case at many airports) you probably aren't going to be allowed to do high speed passes on that side of the runway. The CD doesn't have to call anything. After I finish through the cylinder I can do what I want unless there are instructions not to. I just think the CD should give guidance for orderly speed passes. What you said was confusing, I thought you were proposing some sort of finish gate on both sides of a runway. I've probably flown 20 or so cylinder finishes at regional contests over the past couple of years. Except for the very first contest where I (and just about everyone else) was exposed to them, everyone I've seen does an easy pullup after they cross the edge of the cylinder. This is the way finish cylinders are supposed to be used. They were intended to eliminate the need for high speed passes. It doesn't preclude a high speed pass, but around here very few people feel the need at this point, and if people insisted upon doing them at a contest, in many cases the CD would tell them to stop. Obviously, there is at least one place where people routinely do high speed passes after crossing the cylinder. The honest question in my mind is still, why? If you all want to do passes, use a finish gate, it's clearly safer than having people coming from different directions and pulling up in the center of the cylinder. Pulling up at the edge of the cylinder is probably more dangerous than continuing down to a speed pass. If you finish at 550 feet what about the guy finishing behind you that finishes at 650 feet, can you see him? If you pull up from your pass at 50 feet, and the guy behind you is at 150 feet, can you see him? Any problems with multiple people finishing simultaneously from the same direction will be the same whether or not everyone is doing a low pass. Using an appropriately sized cylinder, and pulling up at the edge, greatly reduces the high speed conflicts with people coming from other directions, and pretty much keeps everyone out of the traffic pattern until they are actually landing. Marc |
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