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Old December 3rd 05, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Dennis Fetters wrote:
C.D.Damron wrote:

"Dennis Fetters" wrote in message
et...

You are welcome to prove this statement by posting a little thing called
facts.


FACT: In your literature, you claimed 2000 hour TBO for non-engine parts
while you had never tested any parts for anything approaching 2000 hours.


WRONG!! In our literature we said that we designed the components to a
2000 hour TBO.


Ah. You deliberately misled customers by using weasel words, but didn't
quite say "to", you used the word "with".
Here are some quotes from various brochures over the years:

All components, except the Rotax 582 engine, were designed with a 2,000
hour T.B.O.

All components, except the engine, are designed with a TBO of at least
2,000 hours.

High TBO: All components except the engine and lifetime composite main
blades, are designed with a TBO up to 2,000 hours.

The main transmission contains a set of ground spiral bevel ring and
pinion gears, designed and manufactured specifically for the Mini-500B
to give a 2,000 hour TBO.

We also stated that they were not tested to a 2000 hour TBO.


You _never_ stated any such thing.
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Old December 4th 05, 05:45 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Helper wrote:
Dennis Fetters wrote:
WRONG!! In our literature we said that we designed the components to a
2000 hour TBO.



Ah. You deliberately misled customers by using weasel words, but didn't
quite say "to", you used the word "with".
Here are some quotes from various brochures over the years:



Ah HA!! Mr. Help, you are no help. People are not as stupid as you
portray them to be. How many customers do you think purchased a Mini-500
without calling us to ask questions? How many do you think didn't
understand what we wrote, or those that didn't understand about the 2000
hours asked for clarification? How many people do you think really
thought they were purchasing a fully 2000 hour tested helicopter for
only $20,000 to $28,000.

Why do you think other people are so stupid? Or, do you judge all others
as if they were equal to you? I guess if "you" would have been someone
that purchased a Mini-500 based on your belief it had a 2000 tested
component life, then I would actually owe someone an apology for their
lacking braid capacity to understand. Lucky for me, you didn't buy one.


All components, except the Rotax 582 engine, were designed with a 2,000
hour T.B.O.

All components, except the engine, are designed with a TBO of at least
2,000 hours.

High TBO: All components except the engine and lifetime composite main
blades, are designed with a TBO up to 2,000 hours.

The main transmission contains a set of ground spiral bevel ring and
pinion gears, designed and manufactured specifically for the Mini-500B
to give a 2,000 hour TBO.



Thank you for backing up what we advertised.


We also stated that they were not tested to a 2000 hour TBO.



You _never_ stated any such thing.


Yes we did.


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
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Old December 4th 05, 05:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Bin Fetters wrote:
Just like many commercial helicopters that also had premature failures
(and that did test 2000 hours), including the R-22 and R-44, some of our
components did not make it to the designed life.


Your designs will never EVER be in the same league as that of Frank
Robinson's and NONE of your designs made it even CLOSE to 2000 hours.

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Old December 5th 05, 07:46 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Dear Sir,

We represent an investment Bank in UK. We provide the following
services:-

* Arrange Project finance, Short Term Finance for profitable projects.

* Project funding with and without collateral (against Insurance
wrap).
* We arrange insurance guarantee also.

We do not charge any upfront fee. Client will be dealing directly with
bank.

For more information, please feel free to contact us.

With Regards
Dennis

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Old December 5th 05, 01:49 AM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default (Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!

Dennis Fetters wrote:
Helper wrote:

Dennis Fetters wrote:
WRONG!! In our literature we said that we designed the components to
a 2000 hour TBO.


Ah. You deliberately misled customers by using weasel words, but
didn't quite say "to", you used the word "with".
Here are some quotes from various brochures over the years:


Ah HA!! Mr. Help, you are no help. People are not as stupid as you
portray them to be.


Well that's a switch! You marketed to entry-level customers. Then after
your collapse, you portrayed them as stupid, incapable, and the cause of
all your problems.

How many customers do you think purchased a Mini-500
without calling us to ask questions? How many do you think didn't
understand what we wrote, or those that didn't understand about the 2000
hours asked for clarification? How many people do you think really
thought they were purchasing a fully 2000 hour tested helicopter for
only $20,000 to $28,000.


We'll never know how many of them thought what.

Why do you think other people are so stupid? Or, do you judge all others
as if they were equal to you? I guess if "you" would have been someone
that purchased a Mini-500 based on your belief it had a 2000 tested
component life, then I would actually owe someone an apology for their
lacking braid capacity to understand. Lucky for me, you didn't buy one.

All components, except the Rotax 582 engine, were designed with a
2,000 hour T.B.O.

All components, except the engine, are designed with a TBO of at least
2,000 hours.

High TBO: All components except the engine and lifetime composite main
blades, are designed with a TBO up to 2,000 hours.

The main transmission contains a set of ground spiral bevel ring and
pinion gears, designed and manufactured specifically for the Mini-500B
to give a 2,000 hour TBO.


Thank you for backing up what we advertised.


LOL! It was pure hyperbole. You never backed it up then, and nobody's
backing it up now.

We also stated that they were not tested to a 2000 hour TBO.


You _never_ stated any such thing.


Yes we did.


Naw, I've got a bunch of brochures here and there's nothing of the sort,
not a hint.

You're not very popular here, ya' notice? Feeling kind of alone? Maybe
it's time for you to pop up as "planeman" again and praise yourself.
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Old December 5th 05, 05:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default (Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!

No need to waste my time discussing it with you. What I said below is
correct, unchanged.

Helper wrote:

Dennis Fetters wrote:

Helper wrote:

Dennis Fetters wrote:
WRONG!! In our literature we said that we designed the components to
a 2000 hour TBO.




Ah. You deliberately misled customers by using weasel words, but
didn't quite say "to", you used the word "with".
Here are some quotes from various brochures over the years:



Ah HA!! Mr. Help, you are no help. People are not as stupid as you
portray them to be.



Well that's a switch! You marketed to entry-level customers. Then after
your collapse, you portrayed them as stupid, incapable, and the cause of
all your problems.

How many customers do you think purchased a Mini-500 without calling
us to ask questions? How many do you think didn't understand what we
wrote, or those that didn't understand about the 2000 hours asked for
clarification? How many people do you think really thought they were
purchasing a fully 2000 hour tested helicopter for only $20,000 to
$28,000.



We'll never know how many of them thought what.

Why do you think other people are so stupid? Or, do you judge all
others as if they were equal to you? I guess if "you" would have been
someone that purchased a Mini-500 based on your belief it had a 2000
tested component life, then I would actually owe someone an apology
for their lacking braid capacity to understand. Lucky for me, you
didn't buy one.

All components, except the Rotax 582 engine, were designed with a
2,000 hour T.B.O.

All components, except the engine, are designed with a TBO of at
least 2,000 hours.

High TBO: All components except the engine and lifetime composite
main blades, are designed with a TBO up to 2,000 hours.

The main transmission contains a set of ground spiral bevel ring and
pinion gears, designed and manufactured specifically for the
Mini-500B to give a 2,000 hour TBO.



Thank you for backing up what we advertised.



LOL! It was pure hyperbole. You never backed it up then, and nobody's
backing it up now.

We also stated that they were not tested to a 2000 hour TBO.




You _never_ stated any such thing.



Yes we did.



Naw, I've got a bunch of brochures here and there's nothing of the sort,
not a hint.

You're not very popular here, ya' notice? Feeling kind of alone? Maybe
it's time for you to pop up as "planeman" again and praise yourself.



Believe me, I don't waste a single moment worrying about anything you think.


Dennis Fetters

Designer of;
Air Command 1/plcs Gyroplanes
Air Command 2/plcs Gyroplanes
Mini-500 1/Plcs Helicopter
Voyager-500 2/Plcs Helicopter
Excalibur 5/Plcs Turbine Helicopter
Star-Lite-A VTUAV Helicopter
Star-Lite-B VTUAV Helicopter
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Old December 5th 05, 02:28 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default (Mini-500)I want to build the most EVIL plane EVER !!!

Bin Fetters wrote:
Just like many commercial helicopters that also had premature failures
(and that did test 2000 hours), including the R-22 and R-44, some of our
components did not make it to the designed life.


Your designs will never EVER be in the same league as that of Frank
Robinson's and NONE of your designs made it even CLOSE to 2000 hours.

 




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