ntsb report

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:

Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?

http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:31:09 -0500, Peter Clark
wrote:


http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF



That's the one.

Many thanks.

You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:

Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?

http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?

You might want to call the NTSB and let them know their offense.. They
are the ones who would be in violation of any such statute, not a
separate individual who posts a LINK to said page.

Dave

OtisWinslow wrote:
You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:


Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?

http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?

OtisWinslow wrote:
You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?

Are you refering to the Personal Privacy Act (IIRC 5USC550(b))? If so,
this regulates organizations which MAINTAIN A DATABASE containing
personal information. The poster didn't violate it and it's not clear
that publishing individual records from such a database does.

Gee, I don't see any name or ssn.

I see a URL where his name and ss might exist, and if it does, it was
put there by the same federal government that forbids it.

Of course, it relates to a situation where a pilot closely followed a
federal regulation and was busted for doing so, so maybe we are all
simply rattling around in the same rabbit hole.





On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 13:28:15 GMT, "OtisWinslow"
wrote:

You do realize that you have posted this gentleman's name and social
security number on the Internet in violation of federal law?



"Peter Clark" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 18:33:36 GMT, wrote:

Does anyone have a copy of the NTSB report which was posted a while
back concerning the guy who launched IFR in IMC in uncontrolled
airspace into VMC above and was dinged for "careless and negligent"?

http://www.ntsb.gov/O_n_O/docs/AVIATION/3935.PDF ?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:03:48 GMT, wrote:

Gee, I don't see any name or ssn.

cfeyeeye

Check out the CFI number in the report.

I don't know the time frame, but I believe the certificate numbers were
SSN's before identity thief became a problem.

Allen

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:14:31 -0600, A Lieberman
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:03:48 GMT, wrote:

Gee, I don't see any name or ssn.

cfeyeeye

Check out the CFI number in the report.

I don't know the time frame, but I believe the certificate numbers were
SSN's before identity thief became a problem.

Allen

I wasn't talking about the report.

The poster didn't post a report.

He posted a link to a report.

I doubt he could be violating a federal law by posting a link to a
federal website, where a federal agency might be in violation of
federal law, but these days with the idiocy that prevails in the
Justice Department, who knows?

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:20:32 GMT, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 09:14:31 -0600, A Lieberman
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 15:03:48 GMT, wrote:

Gee, I don't see any name or ssn.

cfeyeeye

Check out the CFI number in the report.

I don't know the time frame, but I believe the certificate numbers were
SSN's before identity thief became a problem.

Allen

I wasn't talking about the report.

The poster didn't post a report.

He posted a link to a report.

I doubt he could be violating a federal law by posting a link to a
federal website, where a federal agency might be in violation of
federal law, but these days with the idiocy that prevails in the
Justice Department, who knows?

Actually, I would contend that the item I posted a link for is not
even a report - it appears to be an administrative law court ruling.
Since court judgments are public record, would the onus not be on the
court to redact any information required to be withheld before
publishing their ruling, especially when the ruling is hosted on a
publicly accessible government website - especially since the link for
this specific item contained on their publicly accessible website was
obtained by doing a 3 second Google search anyway?

A Lieberman wrote in
:

I don't know the time frame, but I believe the certificate numbers were
SSN's before identity thief became a problem.

I'm not sure when the FAA started using SSNs for pilot's certificate
numbers, but it was after I got mine. My certificate has never used my
SSN.

--
Regards,

Stan

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." B. Franklin