Want derelict 172

(Ray Toews) wrote:

ooops, forgot to put the smilley behind that,,,I'm trying to keep a
sense of humour here,,,,,or maybe appeal to someones sense of sympathy
and keep this poor old boy flying.
It is very irritating having ones airplane blow over in the wind, I
just bought it last nov and had done a lot of fixing, you know, the
little things that make you trust the airplane.
Some advice,,,,tie it down with GOOD anchors, with a strong chain.

GOOD Anchors... YES.
Chain.... NOT recommended.

Alternativly,,,I have for sale a 1956 C172, needs some work. Will
trade for flying RV4.

Just an opinion....
TWO flying C-172's = ONE RV-4, needs some work.


Barnyard BOb --

On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 03:12:15 -0500, Barnyard BOb -- wrote:

GOOD Anchors... YES.
Chain.... NOT recommended.

To further expound on this read AC 20-35C and it'll suggest how strong the
ropes should be, and how it should be tied.

You'll notice that few airports place the tiedowns so that the plane can
be tied down in the correct manner, i.e. they have the tail tiedown much
too close to the wing tiedowns and you can really get the proper angles.

We had a "plow wind" NOT A TORNADO, apparently. The result was my old
spamcan C172 pulled her tethers and went flying, 100mph winds
apparently will do that.
Sooo if you know of an old 172 sitting behind the hanger, you know the
one, firewall showing, windows crazed, covered with bird****,
instruments all stolen, ownership in question but relatively intact.
Two wings, preferably a left and a right, one strut and vertical stab
are needed, certification is not an issue as this aircraft is eligable
for owner maintence, which for you less fortunate Americans makes it a
sort of,,, homebuilt.
First choice would be in Canada but,,, ya know,,,, I am willing to
travel for the rite price.

Alternativly,,,I have for sale a 1956 C172, needs some work. Will
trade for flying RV4.

Ray Toews
Fort Vermilion AB

ztoews at incentre dot net

ooops, forgot to put the smilley behind that,,,I'm trying to keep a
sense of humour here,,,,,or maybe appeal to someones sense of sympathy
and keep this poor old boy flying.
It is very irritating having ones airplane blow over in the wind, I
just bought it last nov and had done a lot of fixing, you know, the
little things that make you trust the airplane.
Some advice,,,,tie it down with GOOD anchors, with a strong chain.
A 172 in a 100 mph wind pulls,,,, don't know, a hell of a lot and
those twisty little things don't hold much and those handy quick
release hold down straps are only good for 450 lbs.
Soooo now that I have a tear in your eye, how about that
RV4,,,huh,,huh.
Ray

On 23 Aug 2003 19:40:14 GMT, (CW9371) wrote:

Alternativly,,,I have for sale a 1956 C172, needs some work. Will
trade for flying RV4.

ummm let met get this right, u have a wrecked 172 that u wanna trade for a
flying Rv4. Am i the only one thats confused by this. I know that when we
sold our 172 which was a 69 and flying and was in good shape we didnt get
enough to buy a decent flying Rv4.

Barnyard BOb -- wrote in message . ..
(Ray Toews) wrote:
Alternativly,,,I have for sale a 1956 C172, needs some work. Will
trade for flying RV4.

Just an opinion....
TWO flying C-172's = ONE RV-4, needs some work.

I know where there's an RV-4, needs some work

I don't think two flying C172s would acquire it,
but YouNeverKnow ....

Cheers,
Sydney

There's one sitting at JVY, Clarks County, Indiana. If you want the tail
number I'll get it for you. It's all there. The tires are flat and hasn't
been flown in a couple years.

OldCop

I'd like to hear if you have any problem seperating the owner from the
a/c, and if successful, how you proceeded. There was an earlier thread
on the problems, the why, and several hows; - Mike


"OldCop" wrote:

There's one sitting at JVY, Clarks County, Indiana. If you want the tail
number I'll get it for you. It's all there. The tires are flat and hasn't
been flown in a couple years.

OldCop

On 01 Sep 2003 03:21 PM, Ray Toews posted the following:

Okay, why not chains, other than the obvious solid tugging that
occurs, but methinks that could be negated by using a heavy cable tied
down at several intervals with powerline anchors, that way the tugging
would be absorbed by the cable.

Here in Alaska the usual tiedown is 1/2" nylon ropes, usually tied in
such a way that tension can be added without undoing the know (in case a
gust hits while it is being tightened. Personally, I like to use a
packers' hitch which allows compound leverage to be applied with the
ropes, which reduces the tendency to loosen over time.

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Okay, why not chains, other than the obvious solid tugging that
occurs, but methinks that could be negated by using a heavy cable tied
down at several intervals with powerline anchors, that way the tugging
would be absorbed by the cable.

Ray
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Sooner or later, dealing with chains will ding your airplane.
All it takes is one bad 'slap' of a chain and you could
be needing touch up paint..... or worse.

FWIW...
Don't trust chains by looks. Know the breaking
strength . Use five times what you think you need.
About that point you may find chain is far too
cumbersome for the application. 8-(

So....
Nylon rope is superior to dacron or poly.
Manila is a joke.

1/2 inch double braided nylon...
Working load - 1630 pounds

5/8 inch double braided nylon...
Working load - 2800 pounds

Larger, if it helps you sleep nights. g

P.S.
Don't forget about UV deterioration.
Might wanna try.....
303 Aerospace Protectant
http://www.303products.com/main.php?infopage=protectant

If I'm wrong...
Never mind.


Barnyard BOb --