Good flying fiction?

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Chris Wells wrote:

I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?

Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had
a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too.

Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got
the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is
this
the way they were built?




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Chris Wells

Orval Fairbairn writes:


I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?

Yup. The P-51 also had a fabric-covered rudder; early-model Corsairs had
a fair amount of fabric on the wings, too.

Interesting. I seem to recall reading in Douglas Bader's book how
they jumped the queue to get the more effective aluminum rudder/ailerons
on their aircraft by flying to the factory for the instalation.

A year+ later, the bill arrived and he suggested past squadron
leaders as the ones to ask; one was dead, another a POW, etc..
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And the DC-3.

"Terry" wrote in message
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Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got the
opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that the
elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is this
the way they were built?




--
Chris Wells





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"Juan Jimenez" wrote in
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And the DC-3.

"Terry" wrote in message
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Yes... and quite a few bombers as well... B-17 comes to mind...

Terry

"Chris Wells" wrote in
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I recently visited the Niagara Aerospace Museum (thumbs up!) and got
the opportunity to see a P39 Airacobra close-up...and I noticed that
the elevator and ailerons (& possibly the rudder as well) were
fabric-covered, instead of aluminum like the rest of the plane. Is
this the way they were built?
Chris Wells


Yep, my aunt sewed fabric for the planes coming out of the Grumman
plant in NY during WWII.

I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less.

I wonder what they used for dope. Nitrate was common but very
flammable, maybe not great on a warplane. I don't think butyrite
was around yet.
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Ron Hardin


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Ron Hardin wrote:
I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less.

Delay the onset of flutter, to be pedantic about it. Lacking a solid
unerstanding and good computer models, they just made the control
surfaces as light as possible and hoped for the best.

Michael

In article ,
Ron Hardin wrote:

I think they used fabric to eliminate control surface flutter, the
aft-of-hinge mass being less.

I wonder what they used for dope. Nitrate was common but very
flammable, maybe not great on a warplane. I don't think butyrite
was around yet.

Yes -- they used nitrate dope -- just like the Hindenburg! Acetate dope
came in after the war; butyrate a little later, then cellulose acetate
butyrate (CAB). CAB was the standard until Stits, etc. came up with
their products, but on Dacron, they still used nitrate dope to get
adhesion to the fabric.

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"Chris Wells" wrote in message
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I've been looking for some good flying stories. A friend recommended
"The Reluctant Messiah", which I've yet to find. Can someone recommend
more, preferably written by a pilot & for pilots?




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Chris Wells

On Jan 30, 5:47 am, "NW_Pilot"
wrote:
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entertaining for the independent non-institutionalized thinker's out there!
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"Chris Wells" wrote in message

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I've been looking for some good flying stories. A friend recommended
"The Reluctant Messiah", which I've yet to find. Can someone recommend
more, preferably written by a pilot & for pilots?

--
Chris Wells

I have a web page with a list of aviation books I've read:

http://www.netlabs.net/~richieb/books.html

I haven't updated it in a while, but you may find it helpful

.....richie