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Turboprops
Bertie the Bunyip pinched out a steaming pile
: "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote in : "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... snip of your usual bull**** - Good job Gertie. After the absence of your ignorance for a couple of months, the newsgroup begins to show signs of becoming useful again, and here you are, spouting your wanna be troll nonsense, and cross posting to the kook world. Are you afraid Mx was stealing your thunder? Nope, i just like watching you bitch and moan. It's a bit like watching a turtle turned on it's back. Bertie Whenever I find an injured animal I always try to help it. It makes me feel warm inside... -- http://www.bds-palestine.net/?q=node/9 ___ ___ ___ ___ /\__\ /\ \ /\ \ /\ \ /:/ _/_ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ \:\ \ /:/ /::\ \ _____\:\ \ ___ \:\ \ ___ /::\ \ /:/_/:/\:\__\ /::::::::\__\ /\ \ \:\__\ /\ /:/\:\__\ \:\/:/ /:/ / \:\~~\~~\/__/ \:\ \ /:/ / \:\/:/ \/__/ \::/ /:/ / \:\ \ \:\ /:/ / \::/__/ \/_/:/ / \:\ \ \:\/:/ / \:\ \ /:/ / \:\__\ \::/ / \:\__\ |
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Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
John
Your 100% correct. Saw a BIG bizzard here inTX just ahead of me and started to fly under him with plenty of clearance. When he saw me close he folded his wings and fell straight down and almost took my wing off when we colided. Fly over not under. Big John. ************************************************** ************************* On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 07:02:33 +0000 (UTC), (John Clear) wrote: In article , a wrote: Once, at general aviation speeds, we saw a flock of what seemed to be canada geese at constant bearing out our windscreen. Sailers say "Constant bearing means collision". We saw them with enough seconds in hand to reduce our rate of climb and got under them. Going under birds isn't advised, since when spooked, they often will dive for the ground. Much safer to go over them, since their rate of climb isn't that fast. John |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into HudsonRiver after LGA departure
On Jan 18, 12:46*pm, "Scott M. Kozel" wrote:
§ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. I wonder in this example why did the Electra stall and spin? From my very first lessons it was drilled into my head by all my instructors "WHEN THE ENGINE FAILS GET THE NOSE DOWN AND FLY THE AIRPLANE!" I wonder why the Electra didn't remain in a (somewhat) straight & level attitude? Was the crew too busy, confused, alarmed, to fly/glide the airplane? How about the hijacked jet that crashed off the Atlantic? The video of that crash shows it hitting at a wing-first, crooked angle. Again, why didn't the crew have the thing in a landing configuration which may have saved more, if not all, lives? Was this crew scared? Did they have guns pointed at their temples? All kinds of things could have caused these crews too much distraction to just fly the airplane, get it in a landing configuration, and belly the thing in, as did US Airways in the Hudson. This just stresses once again, the importance to me, that when the plane gets quiet, get the nose down and fly the airplane, find a landing spot, then deal with everything else as able. George II (Also Ricky sometimes) |
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Maxie begins a new kook-out.were.... Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 10:20:35 -0800 (PST), George
wrote: On Jan 18, 12:46*pm, "Scott M. Kozel" wrote: §ñühw¤£f wrote: I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes: turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Well ... while the L-188 Lockheed Electra example is a turboprop, the above poster apparently didn't realize that a turboprop engine has a jet engine. Discuss. I wonder in this example why did the Electra stall and spin? From my very first lessons it was drilled into my head by all my instructors "WHEN THE ENGINE FAILS GET THE NOSE DOWN AND FLY THE AIRPLANE!" I wonder why the Electra didn't remain in a (somewhat) straight & level attitude? Was the crew too busy, confused, alarmed, to fly/glide the airplane? ISTR from reading Air Disasters by Macarthur Jobs, that the Electra crashed because the birds took out both engines on one side and the asymmetric thrust of the remaining engines could not be corrected by the available rudder authority. I may be wrong. It was a long time ago that I read about it. How about the hijacked jet that crashed off the Atlantic? The video of that crash shows it hitting at a wing-first, crooked angle. Again, why didn't the crew have the thing in a landing configuration which may have saved more, if not all, lives? Was this crew scared? Did they have guns pointed at their temples? There was a hijacker in the cockpit. Apparently he upset the controls at the last minute. -- Shill #2 Great Tarverisms #5 The pitot tube was added to the first American jets to prevent the kind of failures that killed an entire squadron off Florida. Without P1 and T0 a jet will stall in fog. Thanks to both of you for playing. John rec.aviation.military 11 August 2002 |
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Jet Turboprop
I propose a technological solution to the problem of bird strikes:
turboprops. Lets return to the good old days pre-jet engines. Discuss. One of the most prominent examples of a turboprop passenger aircraft was the Lockheed L-188 Electra. It CERTAINLY came along well after a number of "jet" passenger aircraft were put into service. A turboprop, obviously, is NOT a jet but did get partial thrust from the turbine exhaust. As I recall, the "jet" effect was somewhere around 10% of the total thrust with the propellers providing the other 90%. The aircraft suffered from early problems with "whirl mode" which took the wing from two aircraft in flight. Whirl mode is the aircraft equivalent of the Tacoma Narrows bridge effect (Galloping Gertie) in which resonance modes that were not predicted in fact occurred. The effect was originally attributed to severe turbulence, but a series of tests over the California Sierra in turbulence classified as somewhere between severe and extreme proved that prognosis wrong. One of our pilots (PSA) who helped conduct the tests came back saying that "I swear to Almighty God that tin whore was flying tail first for a while." The Allison engine was a jewel, but from a maintenance and reliability point of view, the propellers were a POS. Jim L-188 wrench 63-67 |
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Turboprops
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Nope, i just like watching you bitch and moan. It's a bit like watching a turtle turned on it's back. Bertie At least you have a grip on your own situation. |
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Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message ... Dear fjucktard.. Actually that's all i wanted to say. Bertie Sorry, didn't mean to confuse you too. |
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Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
Tech Support wrote in message ... Dear VIi I refuse to communicate with anyone who doesn't know their A**hole from a hole in the ground. Good by and may the rag heads take you down. BJ Now you're proving your self and idiot, because you clearly no nothing about me, or how to read your own post. |
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Airliner crashes into Hudson River after LGA departure
"George" wrote in message ... On Jan 18, 3:37 pm, "Maxwell" #$$9#@%%%.^^^ wrote: I'm not Mx, and you can't seem to decide if you are George or Ricky. Are you having an identity crisis? Take the "a" out of Maxwell & you get MX. George (aka; Ricky) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wow dicky, you figured that out all on your own? Take the G out of George or the R out of ricky, and you still have a dumb ass. |
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