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"Jim" wrote in message ... : : "Jim Watt" wrote in message : ... : On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:47 -0500, "Jim" wrote: : : What is unsatisfactory in your View might I ask.. : : The fact that your government is detaining British citizens : illegally. and that they are facing a kangaroo court. : : So who's paying the Aussies for all this kangaroo export traffic.... |
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"William Black" wrote in message ...
"vince" wrote in message om... "William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... Why occupy someone elses country against the wishes of its inhabitants ? Like IRELAND? And which bit of the island of Ireland is occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants? oooooo how clever if you kill the inhabitnats nd bring inyour own folks its never "occupied against the wishes of a majority of its inhabitants?" Come off it Vince, it's all from well before anyone but Indians were a majority where you live. Indians are "native americans" we respect that and do our best to admit to historical oppression. Vince |
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On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 14:35:53 -0500, "Jim" wrote:
"William Black" wrote in message ... "Jim" wrote in message ... On my Visit to Ireland I came to the understanding from talking to Irishmen that the majority of "Irish" would perfer the British left... The Irish I talked with made it clear there was 1 Ireland and the only reason there is a notheren is a minority of Irishmen (ulsters??) wish the I imagine something similar gets said in Iraq as well. However Ireland has been occupied and held since 1172 or there abouts the south release in the 1920's I guess you will have a valid argument if we are still occupying IRAQ in say 800 years. Yawn. The discussion was about the treatment of the people kidnapped and illegally taken and held on a US base in Cuba. In the ending of 'Animal farm' the pigs and the farmers sit down to a meal together and its hard to tell them apart. Your Government is getting more like a bunch of terrorists all the time , its just that they have better bombs and more assets. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com |
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On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:23:07 +1200, "gblack" wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... : : "Jim Watt" wrote in message : ... : On Mon, 4 Aug 2003 14:23:47 -0500, "Jim" wrote: : : What is unsatisfactory in your View might I ask.. : : The fact that your government is detaining British citizens : illegally. and that they are facing a kangaroo court. : : So who's paying the Aussies for all this kangaroo export traffic.... dunno, not the yanks for sure, they even billed the aussies for the bombs dropped on Iraq. -- Jim Watt http://www.gibnet.com |
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"Jim" wrote:
: :"William Black" wrote in message ... : : "Jim" wrote in message : ... : : On my Visit to Ireland I came to the understanding from talking to : Irishmen : that the majority of "Irish" would perfer the British left... : The Irish I talked with made it clear there was 1 Ireland and the only : reason there is a notheren is a minority of Irishmen (ulsters??) wish :the : : I imagine something similar gets said in Iraq as well. : :However Ireland has been occupied and held since 1172 or there abouts the :south release in the 1920's I think that's wrong. I didn't think they actually took over Ireland until Liz I. -- "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stuart Mill |
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Fred J. McCall wrote in message n
: :However Ireland has been occupied and held since 1172 or there abouts the :south release in the 1920's I think that's wrong. I didn't think they actually took over Ireland until Liz I. The Military occupation of Ireland began under Strongbow and Henry II The Treaty of Windsor in 1175 recognized the military conquest. http://www.rte.ie/culture/millennia/history/0711.html vince |
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"ZZBunker" wrote in message om... That's good to know. Since we have to keep reminding you British that we don't *have* a country. We have 50 States. Britian has a country, but it doesn't have bears, lobsters, or bear rifles. No, Britain *is* a country (note spelling). It does have lobsters and why would we need Bear Rifles if we dont have any bears? HTH BMFull |
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"Brett" wrote in message ...
"vince" wrote: | Fred J. McCall wrote in message n | : | :However Ireland has been occupied and held since 1172 or there abouts the | :south release in the 1920's | | I think that's wrong. I didn't think they actually took over Ireland | until Liz I. | | | The Military occupation of Ireland began under Strongbow and Henry II | The Treaty of Windsor in 1175 recognized the military conquest. | | | http://www.rte.ie/culture/millennia/history/0711.html From your link: "Before Henry VIII came to power in 1509 the English had little influence over Ireland. Henry feared that foreign or domestic enemies would use Ireland as a base for attacking him." Apples and oranges. Henry VII was worried that the Anglo-norman military occupiers of Ireland would use it as a base. Not the native Irish. Ireland was essentially a proprietary colony. Large land grant were awarded in Ireland to anglo norman soldier adventurers who coudl then go and fight to take the land from the locals. vince |
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"Ben Full" wrote in message ...
"ZZBunker" wrote in message om... That's good to know. Since we have to keep reminding you British that we don't *have* a country. We have 50 States. Britian has a country, but it doesn't have bears, lobsters, or bear rifles. No, Britain *is* a country (note spelling). It does have lobsters and why would we need Bear Rifles if we dont have any bears? Great Britain is an Island. Teh united kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a country. Arguably Scotland is some kind of "country" But I dont think "britain" qualifies as a country. It is accepted that citizens of the UK are described as "British" vince |
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