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  #21  
Old October 26th 03, 07:05 PM
Jim Weir
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Sorry, no cigar. Putting a source of ignition (110 ac) in proximity to a fuel
source isn't where I wanted to be.

But thanks for trying.

Jim



"Montblack"
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-("Jim Weir" wrote)
- Another thought is to put some sort of oven pan with a mat of some sort
-that
- would let the gasoline evaporate slowly from under the mat. The problem
-is
- finding a nonflammable mat that gasoline will not attack chemically.
-
-
-Pet store (or a garage sale) buy a lizard heating rock. $10.
-
-Put the flat rock UNDER, maybe a large brownie pan, and insulate around the
-rock.
-
-We used a 2" thick piece of rigid pink insulation and cut out the shape of
-the rock. Rock fit flush in the hole. Then we also put another piece of
-rigid pink UNDER the rock, So now the rock/insulation layer is sandwiched
-between a solid piece of 2" insulation on the bottom and the container on
-top.
-
-The rock should be upside-down in the insulation hole to mate up with the
-bottom of whatever you're using as a drip pan.
-
-Run a couple of bands of duct tape around the pink edges for that "finished"
-look and you're all set.
-
-For us it was an aquarium for the lizard (anole) brought home from school at
-the end of the year, by the 3rd grade niece. Kept that sucker alive for 2
-years.
-
-http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/nature/w...iles/anole.htm
-
-You know, any small heating pad would work in this setup. I had a waterbed
-heater that I kept for years after the bed had been thrown away. Used the
-pad all the time. Gave the pad to my sister a while back, haven't seen it
-since.
-
-Or ...a can of yellow foam insulation is $2.95 - $3.95 ...and it's fun to
-play with. Wear latex gloves because that stuff turns your hands black,
-before it hardens.
-
-Whatever you choose, just separate the heating thing from the thermal mass
-pan thing.
-
-Good luck.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Old October 26th 03, 07:06 PM
Jim Weir
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And the WRONG thing is to be dicking around trying to fuel an aircraft at
0-dark-30 in the morning.

But thanks for trying.

Jim



clare @ snyder.on .ca
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-The RIGHT way to solve the problem is to go flying!!!!

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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  #23  
Old October 26th 03, 07:07 PM
Jim Weir
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Yes, I thought I said that I could slow it down, but not stop it. As you can
see, others (ad infinitum, ad nauseum) will tell you the simple physics of
parking an airplane with the outside fuel vent downhill.

Jim


"C J Campbell"
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-Don't fill your plane before putting it away?
-
-We turn the fuel valve off or turn it to left or right tank -- this seems to
-mitigate the problem considerably, though I am not sure why it does this.
-

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Old October 26th 03, 07:09 PM
Jim Weir
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Hm. I guess I could rotate the whole airport so that my hangar faces lefthand
UPHILL instead of downhill, but it is going to take a moby-large bulldozer to do
it.

Jim



-Keep in mind that the right tank is vented to the left tank, and the left
-tank is vented overboard, so if possible, it might help to make the right
-tank the lower one.
-
-Eric
-
-

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Old October 26th 03, 07:13 PM
Jim Weir
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What's a battery mat? And won't fiberglass tend to mat down after a while?

Jim



Frank
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-Battery mat or fiberglass mat in a cookie sheet. Lots of area for
-evaporation.

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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  #26  
Old October 26th 03, 07:14 PM
Jim Weir
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Now THERE'S a thought I hadn't considered.

Jim


David Lesher
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-How about a bucket full of kitty litter?

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Old October 26th 03, 07:18 PM
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That's a thought. You could enhance the probability that the gas would go into
the can by gluing a funnel into the VENT port on the can, or by simply drilling
a hole into the top of the can and epoxy-gluing the funnel into permanent
position. I like that idea even more, because the only evaporation THEN is from
the little tiny funnel hole...and you could go one step further and drill a cork
stopper with a smaller hole at the top of the funnel neck so the gas would pass
through, but the evaporation would be much less.

You guyzes is clever. Thanks.

Jim



"MichaelR"
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-Sporty's oil mat #8667A might work, but I use an open gasoline can on the
-floor. There's usually not much wind in a hangar, so the drips will go right
-in once it is positioned. The small opening in the can reduces the amount of
-evaporation you would get compared to a mat or just letting it hit the
-floor.
-Afterward, I use the fuel to run my lawnmower.
-

Jim Weir (A&P/IA, CFI, & other good alphabet soup)
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Old October 26th 03, 09:15 PM
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"Eric Miller" wrote in message
...
| "karl gruber" wrote in message
| ...
| ****There is only one vent, under the left wing*****
|
| Not on my high wing Cessna. There are vents behind the struts for both
| wings.
|
| Karl
| "Curator" N185KG
|
| What model?
|

My 206 has vents on both sides.


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Old October 26th 03, 10:02 PM
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Battery mat is fiberglass treated to neutralize battery acid, usually
placed in the bottom of the battery box. The fiberglass should not compress
as there is no weight on it in an open pan. Funnel idea is prolly best.
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Old October 27th 03, 01:06 AM
Ben Jackson
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In article ,
Jim Weir wrote:
Hm. I guess I could rotate the whole airport so that my hangar faces lefthand
UPHILL instead of downhill, but it is going to take a moby-large bulldozer to do
it.


How unlevel is it? Just make yourself a really shallow ramp (say by
ripping strips of 1/4" masonite and stacking/gluing them). Put that
on the hangar floor so that you roll onto it as you park.

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Ben Jackson

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