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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"houstondan" wrote in message oups.com... aerobatics in a cessna or citabria-type ship are much more elegant. ain't no snappin a 30-foot wingspan on a little light craft like that. dan Actually, snaps are very good in both the Citabria and the Aerobat and represent their "best" capability in the acro environment. It's the roll rate that's the "problem" with these two airplanes. The drag in roll is so great you need a disproportionate amount of vertical space to execute anything in roll that even comes close to looking good. But if you learn to use the airplanes correctly in that environment, you can at least make it look "passable" :-) Dudley Henriques Bob Hoover made a Shrike look pretty good ... at least to my eye! :-) Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message news Dudley Henriques wrote: "houstondan" wrote in message oups.com... aerobatics in a cessna or citabria-type ship are much more elegant. ain't no snappin a 30-foot wingspan on a little light craft like that. dan Actually, snaps are very good in both the Citabria and the Aerobat and represent their "best" capability in the acro environment. It's the roll rate that's the "problem" with these two airplanes. The drag in roll is so great you need a disproportionate amount of vertical space to execute anything in roll that even comes close to looking good. But if you learn to use the airplanes correctly in that environment, you can at least make it look "passable" :-) Dudley Henriques Bob Hoover made a Shrike look pretty good ... at least to my eye! :-) Matt You're right. Bob's speciality is "smooth" acro. In all the many years I've watched and known him, I"ve never seen anyone quite as smooth with an airplane as he has been. Dudley Henriques |
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message news Dudley Henriques wrote: "houstondan" wrote in message egroups.com... aerobatics in a cessna or citabria-type ship are much more elegant. ain't no snappin a 30-foot wingspan on a little light craft like that. dan Actually, snaps are very good in both the Citabria and the Aerobat and represent their "best" capability in the acro environment. It's the roll rate that's the "problem" with these two airplanes. The drag in roll is so great you need a disproportionate amount of vertical space to execute anything in roll that even comes close to looking good. But if you learn to use the airplanes correctly in that environment, you can at least make it look "passable" :-) Dudley Henriques Bob Hoover made a Shrike look pretty good ... at least to my eye! :-) Matt You're right. Bob's speciality is "smooth" acro. In all the many years I've watched and known him, I"ve never seen anyone quite as smooth with an airplane as he has been. Dudley Henriques I've only seen him twice "in person", but he sure made it look easy. I'd kill for half of his skill. Matt |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... Dudley Henriques wrote: "Matt Whiting" wrote in message news Dudley Henriques wrote: "houstondan" wrote in message legroups.com... aerobatics in a cessna or citabria-type ship are much more elegant. ain't no snappin a 30-foot wingspan on a little light craft like that. dan Actually, snaps are very good in both the Citabria and the Aerobat and represent their "best" capability in the acro environment. It's the roll rate that's the "problem" with these two airplanes. The drag in roll is so great you need a disproportionate amount of vertical space to execute anything in roll that even comes close to looking good. But if you learn to use the airplanes correctly in that environment, you can at least make it look "passable" :-) Dudley Henriques Bob Hoover made a Shrike look pretty good ... at least to my eye! :-) Matt You're right. Bob's speciality is "smooth" acro. In all the many years I've watched and known him, I"ve never seen anyone quite as smooth with an airplane as he has been. Dudley Henriques I've only seen him twice "in person", but he sure made it look easy. I'd kill for half of his skill. Matt He is good; no doubt about it. Not only that, but he's consistently good, and in the demonstration business, consistency is what keeps you alive. It's easy to be good on any given day, but to remain good for the years Bob has been flying professionally, is the true mark of his ability. Dudley Henriques |
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message ...
"Matt Whiting" wrote in message news Dudley Henriques wrote: "houstondan" wrote in message oups.com... aerobatics in a cessna or citabria-type ship are much more elegant. ain't no snappin a 30-foot wingspan on a little light craft like that. dan Actually, snaps are very good in both the Citabria and the Aerobat and represent their "best" capability in the acro environment. It's the roll rate that's the "problem" with these two airplanes. The drag in roll is so great you need a disproportionate amount of vertical space to execute anything in roll that even comes close to looking good. But if you learn to use the airplanes correctly in that environment, you can at least make it look "passable" :-) Dudley Henriques Bob Hoover made a Shrike look pretty good ... at least to my eye! :-) Matt You're right. Bob's speciality is "smooth" acro. In all the many years I've watched and known him, I"ve never seen anyone quite as smooth with an airplane as he has been. Dudley Henriques Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. |
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John R. Copeland wrote:
Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. Can she pour a glass of water while doing a roll? Matt |
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"John R. Copeland" wrote Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. That is a "just in time" comment. I was just reading the thread, and thinking (or trying to remember) who that performer at OSH was, that was so smooth. It was Julie, like you said. I love the rough and tumble, and the seemingly impossible maneuvers that some do, but they leave you (or me) rved up, and she make me feel mellow. Nice! -- Jim in NC |
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"Matt Whiting" wrote in message ...
John R. Copeland wrote: Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. Can she pour a glass of water while doing a roll? Matt Probably. But Bob Hoover can even do that backhanded! |
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John R. Copeland wrote:
"Matt Whiting" wrote John R. Copeland wrote: Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. Can she pour a glass of water while doing a roll? Matt Probably. But Bob Hoover can even do that backhanded! Reminds me of what Ginger Rogers said. She did everything Fred Astaire did, but backwards and in high heels. Debbie |
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"John R. Copeland" wrote in message ... "Matt Whiting" wrote in message ... John R. Copeland wrote: Julie Clark prides herself on smoothness, too. Can she pour a glass of water while doing a roll? Matt Probably. But Bob Hoover can even do that backhanded! Not taking anything away from Bob, who is one of the finest pilots in the world, but that iced tea on the glareshield is really no big deal for any trained aerobatic pilot. There are two distinct factors involved in doing a barrel roll correctly and keeping it centered all the way around. The easiest is keeping positive g on the airplane through the roll which isn't all that hard. The REAL hard part, and what will get you a lap full of iced tea every time, is misuse of the rudder during the roll that enters even a smidgen of either positive or negative yaw into the roll equation. If your rudder work isn't PERFECTLY coordinated for the amount of aileron and elevator you are using in the roll, that glass will SLIDE sideways and end up right in your lap. Again, any good acro pilot can keep it centered. Bob is a great showman as well as being a great pilot. I've never known him to pass up an opportunity at being a good showman. The iced tea on the panel is just one small thing that demonstrates Bob's tremendous ability to combine skill with showmanship. Dudley Henriques |
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