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In article et, "Thomas Schoene" wrote: I'm sure the CO would have preferred to shoot the damned thing, 'cause running it over cost him his command and likely his career. Yeah, poor him. How many people died? D |
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"D" wrote in message nk.net... Yeah, poor him. How many people died? It is very likely that the dhow was sitting dead in the water, no lights, no radar reflector, no crewman on watch, no radio, no flares, no clue. Little craft share in the responsibility for their own safety. |
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Actually, the Kennedy (CIC, the bridge, and so the CO) had been aware
of the dhow for quite some time. Navy Times ran a fairly detailed account, but apparently the CO elected to remain on Fox Corpen(some problem with getting a laggard F-14 back aboard IIRC) even though that would be bring the dhow close aboard. Bottom line is the skipper knew about the dhow and ran over it anyway...(And before anybody starts, I know, ball-diamond-ball and all that) Working from memory here...Will see if I can find the article later. |
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damron- It is very likely that the dhow was sitting dead in the water, no
lights, no radar reflector, no crewman on watch, no radio, no flares, no clue. Little craft share in the responsibility for their own safety. BRBR I doubt the CO of the dhow knew that under international rules of the road, a CV dring flight ops has the right of way. Too bad the CO of the Kennedy got slammed, but it's 'lonely at the top'. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR
Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Gord Beaman wrote:
(Pechs1) wrote: D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV. P. C. Chisholm Bull. While I have all sympathy for the trials and tribulations for a Capt of a carrier maneuvering to pick up a possibly damaged aircraft while dodging other watercraft they are just that, 'things to be avoided'...he didn't take the NECESSARY care and killed people...ergo... I bet if it had been an island, he'd have turned. From a safety standpoint, both parties had opportunities to avoid the incident. But as they say, if this incident was a bacon and egg breakfast, the CO was the chicken, and the dhow skipper was the pig. I'd have moved my dhow. |
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nafod40 wrote:
Gord Beaman wrote: (Pechs1) wrote: D- Yeah, poor him. How many people died? BRBR Why don't you look at the whole picture. CO was running the CV, doing flight ops at night and the dhow was dead in the water. Didn't the 'CO' of the dhow have a clue?(no!) The accident was HIS fault, not the CO of the CV. P. C. Chisholm Bull. While I have all sympathy for the trials and tribulations for a Capt of a carrier maneuvering to pick up a possibly damaged aircraft while dodging other watercraft they are just that, 'things to be avoided'...he didn't take the NECESSARY care and killed people...ergo... I bet if it had been an island, he'd have turned. From a safety standpoint, both parties had opportunities to avoid the incident. But as they say, if this incident was a bacon and egg breakfast, the CO was the chicken, and the dhow skipper was the pig. I'd have moved my dhow. Doesn't sound fair to me...the dhow had full rights to be in his position in the ocean, the carrier tried to usurp that right...pretty simple I'd say. You park your car in a public parking slot on a street, some jerk totals it with his car...who's at fault? Takes a big brain to figure that one out... -- -Gord. (use gordon in email) |
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Gord Beaman wrote:
Doesn't sound fair to me...the dhow had full rights to be in his position in the ocean, the carrier tried to usurp that right...pretty simple I'd say. Yea, but who's dead and who's not? |
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nafod40 wrote:
Yea, but who's dead and who's not? Depends upon whether you're talking about life or career... -- Noah |
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