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Old March 11th 08, 10:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Default Airparks; Living On The Beaten Path?


"Orval Fairbairn" wrote in message
news
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BobR wrote:

On Mar 9, 3:36 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods


Do I want a home that close to a GA Landing Strip? DAMN Right I Do!
I would take one in a heartbeat and love it.


I DO live on a residential airpark (We have about 600 planes) and it is
GREAT! The most noise comes from the yard maintenance people.

Today we had our annual Wings and Wheels event, with many formation
flybys, including 2 P-51 Mustangs, 3 SX-300s and many others.

See:
eaa288.org
http://www.sprucecreekowners.com/
http://www.scpoa.com/
http://fly-in.com/

It is the largest (and, IMHO the best) residential airpark in the world.
We also have more based aircraft than any other airport in Florida.

I moved here 9 years ago and am having a BLAST!

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Nice!!!


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Old March 10th 08, 03:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"BobR" wrote in message
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On Mar 9, 3:36 pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
This got me thinking, a rudderless Ercoupe in a multi-directional wind
landing......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l2NJFrvYls

Do you (I) really want a home that close to a GA landing strip? Yet I see
megabuck homes in my neck of the woods


Do I want a home that close to a GA Landing Strip? DAMN Right I Do!
I would take one in a heartbeat and love it.

http://www.visualtour.com/shownp.asp?prt=85&t=1217861

http://preview.tinyurl.com/39avgz Use satellite mode

Am I missing something? Isn't this a bit off the safety charts?
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Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.

Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!



There are airparks and airparks. Some have adequate width runways and
taxiways. I have also landed at some that made me feel like I was attacking
Darth Vader with an X-wing. I landed at one where I had about twenty feet
clearance for my wingtips while descending into the canyon made by
encroaching hangars and homes! I was NOT comfortable. I came there from
another airpark with a 22 foot wide runway, where I felt perfectly
comfortable, even in a brisk crosswind because they kept the homes and
hangars well back from the runway.

Highflyer


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Old March 10th 08, 11:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 22:53:37 -0500, Highflyer wrote:

There are airparks and airparks. Some have adequate width runways and
taxiways. I have also landed at some that made me feel like I was attacking
Darth Vader with an X-wing. I landed at one where I had about twenty feet
clearance for my wingtips while descending into the canyon made by
encroaching hangars and homes! I was NOT comfortable. I came there from
another airpark with a 22 foot wide runway, where I felt perfectly
comfortable, even in a brisk crosswind because they kept the homes and
hangars well back from the runway.

Highflyer


This is my point, not picking particular, well, I guess I am, on the
Captiva folks but this looks awful slim widthwise.
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Old March 10th 08, 11:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:

Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.


What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.
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Old March 14th 08, 01:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:


Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.



What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse
idea. If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my
house 110' off the center line either you are planting a really large
aircraft on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy
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Old March 14th 08, 02:19 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
m...
WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:


Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.



What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse idea.
If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my house
110' off the center line either you are planting a really large aircraft
on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy


I agree, and might add that 110' from the centerline is pretty generous
compared to some of the residential airparks that I have visited. OTOH, all
that open space does give you that panoramic view you bought it for. :-)

Peter



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Old March 14th 08, 06:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 22:19:08 -0400, Peter Dohm wrote:

What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse idea.
If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my house
110' off the center line either you are planting a really large aircraft
on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy


I agree, and might add that 110' from the centerline is pretty generous
compared to some of the residential airparks that I have visited. OTOH, all
that open space does give you that panoramic view you bought it for. :-)

Peter


Which makes people crowd their homes to the strip. That I can understand
when first and second tier homes have obstructed views in most (near) beach
residential developments. Not so "on the strip".
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I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
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Old March 15th 08, 12:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Peter Dohm wrote:
"Margy Natalie" wrote in message
m...

WJRFlyBoy wrote:

On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 15:47:22 -0700 (PDT), BobR wrote:



Why do you feel it is off the safety charts? I don't see any issue
with safety beyond any neighborhood anywhere else. You are not
missing anything but may be immagining thing that don't exist.


What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse idea.
If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my house
110' off the center line either you are planting a really large aircraft
on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy



I agree, and might add that 110' from the centerline is pretty generous
compared to some of the residential airparks that I have visited. OTOH, all
that open space does give you that panoramic view you bought it for. :-)

Peter



On second thought it's closer to 85' from the centerline. The runway is
100' wide and the minimum setback is 35'. Just about everyone else
puts their hangar up on the runway and sets the house back, but we are a
corner lot so we can taxi down the taxiway and put the hangar down there
and put the house up on the runway. Actually our hangar is attached to
the house. It's going to be great when it's finished (repeat often).

Margy
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Old March 14th 08, 03:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:29:02 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:

What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse
idea. If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my
house 110' off the center line either you are planting a really large
aircraft on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy


www.TinyURL.com/39avgz

The above was the e.g., note that many homes are 60' OCl

Great way to get Gulf view in a home that is several hundred feet off the
beach though.
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
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Old March 15th 08, 12:08 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:29:02 -0400, Margy Natalie wrote:


What percentage of landings happen off the airstrip? That % of landings
could find you in someone's living room.


I think houses off the approach and departure ends are a much worse
idea. If you have such a bad wind/landing that you are going to hit my
house 110' off the center line either you are planting a really large
aircraft on 3,000' of grass or you need some serious recurrent training.

Margy



www.TinyURL.com/39avgz

The above was the e.g., note that many homes are 60' OCl

Great way to get Gulf view in a home that is several hundred feet off the
beach though.

I saw that, it just made me jealous (until I thought about hurricane
season).
 




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