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Old April 27th 07, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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Boston Approach doesn't control which KBED runway is in use.


Correct, but they do control which KBED SIAP is in use.


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Old April 29th 07, 05:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 9, 6:00 am, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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The third one would be to shut off the landing lights, ILS, beacon, etc.
I realize you can't "adjust" the ILS to tell a plane that the runway is
ten feet lower than it is (like in the movies), but you _might_ be able
to shut it off entirely. Again, in day VFR, or if the incoming planes
are far off, this wouldn't do much. At night or in bad weather, it
might be a little more interesting.


They could turn lights off, but not an ILS.


Hey Steven,,,On April 27 you contradicted yourself... Can the local
tower really shut down the ILS themselves? Inquiring minds and all...

Ben

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Old April 29th 07, 11:42 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Hey Steven,,,On April 27 you contradicted yourself... Can the local
tower really shut down the ILS themselves? Inquiring minds and all...


What contradiction?


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Old April 29th 07, 01:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Apr 29, 4:42 am, "Steven P. McNicoll"
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ups.com...



Hey Steven,,,On April 27 you contradicted yourself... Can the local
tower really shut down the ILS themselves? Inquiring minds and all...


What contradiction?


Ok Here goes,,,

On April 8, Matt Roberds suggested someone who took over a tower could
shut off the ILS at that field.

On April 9 @ 6.00 AM google groups time on post #43 your answer was

"They could turn off the lights but not the ILS "

Now lets fast forward a couple of weeks to April 27..

@ 6.52 google groups time your answer to Bob Noels statement, " KBED
tower can turn off the ILS (and switch it between 11/29)..

your answer was.

"only at the direction of Boston approach"

This implies that the tower can REALLY shut off the ILS.

Simple question.

Can they or not ?????????????

Ben

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Old April 29th 07, 02:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Ok Here goes,,,

On April 8, Matt Roberds suggested someone who took over a tower could
shut off the ILS at that field.

On April 9 @ 6.00 AM google groups time on post #43 your answer was

"They could turn off the lights but not the ILS "

Now lets fast forward a couple of weeks to April 27..

@ 6.52 google groups time your answer to Bob Noels statement, " KBED
tower can turn off the ILS (and switch it between 11/29)..

your answer was.

"only at the direction of Boston approach"

This implies that the tower can REALLY shut off the ILS.

Simple question.

Can they or not ?????????????


Not.



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Old April 29th 07, 02:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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No...
denny

Hey Steven,,,On April 27 you contradicted yourself... Can the local
tower really shut down the ILS themselves? Inquiring minds and all...

Ben



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Old April 29th 07, 02:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
C J Campbell[_1_]
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On 2007-04-09 07:36:50 -0700, "Paul kgyy" said:

Well, of course, everybody knows that Govt employees' and members of
Congress' lives are far more precious than those of the rest of us.

After all, the entire federal Govt came close to closing down a while
back when a C152 strayed into the Washington ADIZ.

The 9/11 terrorists must really being enjoying this from wherever they
are.


As much as you can enjoy living in a cave in Pakistan.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Old April 29th 07, 05:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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In article et,
"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote:

This implies that the tower can REALLY shut off the ILS.

Simple question.

Can they or not ?????????????


Not.


The tower is where the switch is (except at the equipment itself).

Boston Approach doesn't have the ability to switch the equipment off.

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

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Old April 30th 07, 12:37 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Yes, they can. That's where the on/off switch is located.



This whole conversation is confusing the physical location of the
power supply to the ILS with the 'authority' to turn it off... On our
airport the ILS is powered from a padlocked breaker box... The airport
manager has an emergency key to the padlock and can physically shut it
down, but the snarling and swearing that will shortly result will be
something to behold because he does not have the authority to do so
other than a true emergency... In my converstions with the techs who
maintain the system (ILS and NDB) they take a dim view of anyone
touching 'their' equipment... The lone exception has been the NDB
which is prone to tripping off from nearby lightning strikes... We
will routinely unlock the door to the shack and reset the breaker...
The techs are happy not to make a 90 mile drive just for that...

denny

 




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