Global Warming The debbil made me do it

Dan wrote in news:c95ff77d-661d-48a0-9a9c-
:

On Mar 9, 3:35 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

These days they're getting it right about 90% of the time.

My flight logs come with forecast winds for every waypoint. they
are
generaly within 10degrees and 5 knots of forecast hours form when
the
forecast was made.
Vis, winds, precip, are all forecast to an accuracy that would
have
been thought impossible just a few years ago.

Bertie

From which source?

Can't you read? Me. I just told you. Moi, Ich, myself with my own
eyes.

I've yet to see winds aloft match the forecast except when very
strong
(40 Knots @ 3000) or very light.

Mine are for high alt. The wx service wont tell you the wind at the
top
of every peak, that's YOUR job to extrapolate.

Bertie

I don't fly high alt -- I fly between 5-14k.

I know what my job is -- thanks, and therefore how to extrapolate.


Then how come you didn't realise that that is where the error lay?


Bertie

On Mar 9, 3:37 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I thought they were perfect.

Bertie


Then I'll keep them.

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
:

In article
,
Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal
wrote:
Dan wrote in
news:b6793e6f-a50d-49aa-ade0-caa8a027da37@
47g2000hsb.googlegroups.c
om:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm
unilaterally. They also insisted that it was US technical
advances and weapon fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our
anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our survival


Actually, not everybody agreed. The same sort of idiot who couldnt see
that seems to have proliferated, though.



Bertie

On Mar 9, 3:49 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I know what my job is -- thanks, and therefore how to extrapolate.

Then how come you didn't realise that that is where the error lay?

Bertie

The errors are in velocity as well as direction, and far above "every
peak."

I used winds aloft as one example -- if you're going to assert that
current weather forecasting is 90% exact, I wanna know what service
your using.

And that's forecast -- not observation.


Dan

Dan wrote in news:6081a008-813e-4109-a18e-
:

On Mar 9, 3:49 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

I know what my job is -- thanks, and therefore how to extrapolate.

Then how come you didn't realise that that is where the error lay?

Bertie

The errors are in velocity as well as direction, and far above "every
peak."


I thoght you said you knew what you were doing?

Ever heard of bernoulli?

I used winds aloft as one example -- if you're going to assert that
current weather forecasting is 90% exact, I wanna know what service
your using.

And that's forecast -- not observation.


That's forecast.

I use the same as you. Within reason, I'll stand by the 90%. In fact,
that's a conservative estimate. Compared to what forecasting used to be
like, forecasting is uncannily accurate.

We use fido for flight plan sheets. that;s the ones with weather. The
other is the same as you get. I think I've been surprised by weather
once this year.


Bertie

Dan wrote in
:

However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote:
In article ,
Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal
wrote:
Dan wrote in
:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.
so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness
No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our survival

There was diplomacy on Aliens to ensure our survival and we're still
surviving.... Damn, that Diplomacy and everybody agreeing works to
save us every time.

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
:

In article
9ced5bde-8241-4ecd-9cb5-3948545b7571
@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal mair_fh...
@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dan wrote in
news:b6793e6f-a50d-49aa-ade0-caa8a027da37@
47g2000hsb.googlegroups.c
om:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm
unilaterally. They also insisted that it was US technical
advances and weapon fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our
anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our survival


Actually, not everybody agreed. The same sort of idiot who couldnt
see
that seems to have proliferated, though.

everybody who mattered agreed
mr smarty pants

True. Point is the idiots are at the wheel at the moment.



Bertei


bleaaahhhh

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

In article ,
Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal
wrote:
Dan wrote in
:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm unilaterally.
They also insisted that it was US technical advances and weapon
fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our survival

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
:

In article ,
Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

mariposas rand mair fheal wrote in
-
sjc.supernews.net:

In article
9ced5bde-8241-4ecd-9cb5-3948545b7571
@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com,
Dan wrote:

On Mar 9, 4:17 pm, mariposas rand mair fheal mair_fh...
@yahoo.com
wrote:
Dan wrote in
news:b6793e6f-a50d-49aa-ade0-caa8a027da37@
47g2000hsb.googlegroups.c
om:
However, the Anti-nuke crowd wanted the US to disarm
unilaterally. They also insisted that it was US technical
advances and weapon fielding that was destabilizing.

so let me get this analogy straight

generation of greenhouse gasses are a weapon against our
enemies
(there always enemies - especially in an election year)
and disarming ourselves of this weapon would lead to our
anihilation

arf meow arf - everything thing i know i learned
from the collective unconscience of odd bodkins
nobody could do that much decoupage
without calling on the powers of darkness

No.

"Everybody must agree that there is only one course to insure
our
survival!" rhetoric is consistently wrong.

everybody agreed that gaseous chlorinated fluorocarbons
were threat to our survival and very quickly (in diplomacy)
there was universal agreement on one course to insure our
survival


Actually, not everybody agreed. The same sort of idiot who couldnt
see
that seems to have proliferated, though.

everybody who mattered agreed
mr smarty pants

True. Point is the idiots are at the wheel at the moment.

i wonder what would happen this summer if everyone goes to neijing
takes one deep breath
and then immediately turns around and gets back on the plane


Neijing would have considerably less air.


Bertie