Instrument Rating tests

Doesn't a CFII have to have a CFI to apply for the additional rating?

§ 61.191 Additional flight instructor ratings.
(a) A person who applies for an additional flight instructor rating on a
flight instructor certificate must meet the eligibility requirements listed
in § 61.183 of this part that apply to the flight instructor rating sought.
(b) A person who applies for an additional rating on a flight instructor
certificate is not required to pass the knowledge test on the areas listed
in § 61.185(a)(1) of this part.



§ 61.183 Eligibility requirements.

To be eligible for a flight instructor certificate or rating a person must:

(a) Be at least 18 years of age;

(b) Be able to read, speak, write, and understand the English language. If
the applicant is unable to meet one of these requirements due to medical
reasons, then the Administrator may place such operating limitations on that
applicant’s flight instructor certificate as are necessary;

(c) Hold either a commercial pilot certificate or airline transport pilot
certificate with

(1) An aircraft category and class rating that is appropriate to the
flight instructor rating sought; and

(2) An instrument rating, or privileges on that person’s pilot
certificate that are appropriate to the flight instructor rating sought, if
applying for

(i) A flight instructor certificate with an airplane
category and single-engine class rating;

(ii) A flight instructor certificate with an airplane
category and multiengine

(iii) A flight instructor certificate with a
powered-lift rating; or

(iv) A flight instructor certificate with an instrument
rating.



"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
...
A CFII can not instruct for the airplane rating, so is not
an authorized instructor for solo, etc. However, most
instructors will have the airplane rating first, followed by
the II.




"kevmor" wrote in message
oups.com...
| Ok, if you pass the CFII practical test, can you instruct
as just a
| CFI also?
|
| If your instrument rated, would you get the CFI and CFII
during the
| same practical test normally?
|
| If you don't become a GI, but pass the CFI practical, can
you still
| instruct pre and post-flight? Is the GI mainly if you
want to
| instruct in a classroom setting?
|
| On Feb 16, 8:50 pm, "Jim Macklin"
| wrote:
| The IGI is similar to the CFII and IRA tests. The FOI
is
| same series for all instructor ratings. It does expire
in
| 24 calendar months. But when you pass any ground
instructor
| rating, basic or instrument and have the FOI, you just
apply
| for the appropriate certificate. The certificate does
not
| expire and you must have a current valid FOI OR an
issued
| rating.
|
|

"Al G" wrote in
:

Doesn't a CFII have to have a CFI to apply for the additional
rating?

No, CFI-I and CFI-A are not prerequisites for each other.

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"Al G" wrote:
Doesn't a CFII have to have a CFI to apply for the additional rating?

Short answer: No.

There is a common misconception that a "CFII" is a higher class of
certificate than a "plain CFI". This is untrue.

Just like a pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate has ratings.
I've got two ratings on my CFI certificate: single-engine land airplane,
and instrument airplane. It just so happens that I got the SEL rating
first, as my initial instructor rating, and I added the instrument later.
It does not have to be done in that order. Some people get the instrument
first. Some people get other ratings (like glider, or helicopter) as their
initial instructor rating.

Had I gotten my instrument instructor rating first, I would have been
qualified to give instrument instruction to pilots who were already rated
in the airplane. And IPCs. But I could not have given primary
instruction, or BFRs, or instruction towards their commercial.

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
...
"Al G" wrote:
Doesn't a CFII have to have a CFI to apply for the additional rating?

Short answer: No.

There is a common misconception that a "CFII" is a higher class of
certificate than a "plain CFI". This is untrue.

Just like a pilot certificate, a flight instructor certificate has
ratings.
I've got two ratings on my CFI certificate: single-engine land airplane,
and instrument airplane. It just so happens that I got the SEL rating
first, as my initial instructor rating, and I added the instrument later.
It does not have to be done in that order. Some people get the instrument
first. Some people get other ratings (like glider, or helicopter) as
their
initial instructor rating.

Had I gotten my instrument instructor rating first, I would have been
qualified to give instrument instruction to pilots who were already rated
in the airplane. And IPCs. But I could not have given primary
instruction, or BFRs, or instruction towards their commercial.

Thanks gentlemen, I learned something new.

Al G