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"Rob van Riel" wrote in message om... om... I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or that of Americans, for that matter. And, then: None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there have been no calls for the destruction of the US. Rob I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in '91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said: "You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the destruction of America." And: "This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will fall to the ground." Cheers. |
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"John Mullen" wrote in message ...
"Evan Brennan" wrote in message m... "Emmanuel Gustin" wrote in message ... "Evan Brennan" wrote in message m... Terrorism is a local phenomenon only if all the funding, weapons, training, personnel and other forms of support are "centralized locally". A modern terrorist group cannot hope to survive if it's structured like an octopus. That model is vulnerable and obsolete. That model has never been obsolete, precisely because it is the least vulnerable model. You've got it backwards. That model is not used by global terrorist groups because it is obsolete. Al Qaeda has no centralized system of supply and support. They rely on multiple sources. Hence the octopus analogy. The tentacles of an octopus branch out from one, very centralized head. Hence the lunacy of your response. Groups like al Quaeda are not big monolithic corporations; Exactly. But that statement conflicts with your previous one. Tip: always *read* the post you're replying to I know it wastes time you could be spending on building Airfix models, but you may avoid looking like a t**t. Obviously, you and Gustin cannot even count to one. Must be a British and European thing. : ) |
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"Evan Brennan" wrote in message
m... "John Mullen" wrote in message ... "Evan Brennan" wrote in message m... "Emmanuel Gustin" wrote in message ... "Evan Brennan" wrote in message m... Terrorism is a local phenomenon only if all the funding, weapons, training, personnel and other forms of support are "centralized locally". A modern terrorist group cannot hope to survive if it's structured like an octopus. That model is vulnerable and obsolete. That model has never been obsolete, precisely because it is the least vulnerable model. You've got it backwards. That model is not used by global terrorist groups because it is obsolete. Al Qaeda has no centralized system of supply and support. They rely on multiple sources. Hence the octopus analogy. The tentacles of an octopus branch out from one, very centralized head. Hence the lunacy of your response. I see what you mean. I read the octopus analogy as meaning that it has many tentacles, and that even cutting off one or two doesn't guarantee you kill it. Perhaps that's what Emmanuel meant as well. I think I agree with you both, now that I properly undersatnad what you were actually trying to say. I would count that as misunderstanding rather than lunacy. Groups like al Quaeda are not big monolithic corporations; Exactly. But that statement conflicts with your previous one. Tip: always *read* the post you're replying to I know it wastes time you could be spending on building Airfix models, but you may avoid looking like a t**t. This was unnecessarily rude and I apologise. Obviously, you and Gustin cannot even count to one. Must be a British and European thing. : ) One I can usually manage John |
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:AMOkb.133271$6C4.20947@pd7tw1no...
"Rob van Riel" wrote in message om... om... I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or that of Americans, for that matter. And, then: None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there have been no calls for the destruction of the US. Rob I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in '91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said: some murederous comments snipped That was 12 years ago, and in a different country. Things have changed since then in Iran. There's little doubt the Iranian religious establishment dislikes the US, but they have become more reasonable about it, and about many other things as well. The Taliban decided to stick to the rabid dog act, but they weren't the subject of this discussion. Rob |
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"Rob van Riel" wrote in message om... "PosterBoy" wrote in message news:AMOkb.133271$6C4.20947@pd7tw1no... "Rob van Riel" wrote in message om... om... I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or that of Americans, for that matter. And, then: None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there have been no calls for the destruction of the US. Rob I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in '91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said: some murederous comments snipped That was 12 years ago, Sorry; my typo, Rob. It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges. Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your "screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not some.) Cheers. |
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robert arndt wrote:
Close to 200 German KSK were operating with US Special Forces in covert cross border raids into Pakistan, hunting the Taliban. This is one of the things Schroeder was opposed to. Since the KSK were under US command, neither Schroeder nor his defense minister were kept up-to-date with where the KSK was operating or what they were doing. This had to influence Schroeder's decision not to send German troops to Iraq and break his vow of support to President Bush. Rob You mean that the german military either omitted information or just never bothered to tell their own govt, that they were doing cross-borders ? Man that has to tell you something about the german govt. Declan O'Reilly |
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:h7klb.140399$9l5.84204@pd7tw2no...
Sorry; my typo, Rob. It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges. Like I said, the Taliban never improved their act, and are probably as bloodthirsty as ever. Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your "screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not some.) Nope, given the context of the original post I replied to, which was about Iran, not the muslim world as a whole if such an entity even exists, my remark meant 'any from the Iranian establishment'. To the best of my knowledge, that statement is correct, ie. the Iranian government, including those of religious rank, have over the last decade become more and more moderate in their relations with the outside world, and have not been calling for the destruction of the US or any other nation or group in recent years. Rob |
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