U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!

"Joey Bishop" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote

Sounds like Silver Star stuff to me. Now who was the ass who said this
sort of
military action meant nothing? Some are just better soldiers than
others.

I'm convinced that nuclear weapons are going to have to be used within
the next few years (China vs Formosa, Korea, and Iran). Does the Lt in
the silo get a Bronze, or a Silver for that?



Oh yea. They just gave a Bronze Star to an Air Traffic Controller in Kuwait
who,

"Successfully did his job for 100 hours. No friendly planes crashed into
each other." = BRONZE STAR.


Good thing ATC in Kuwait was working. Wow, don't know how I would have done
it without him. Funny thing was, the airspace measures in place for OIF
were VFR see and avoid. Only thing they provided was a warm fuzzy to the
fat kids out there with no radar.

(ArtKramr) wrote:

Only meaningless junk to those who have none.

Dad generously handed his out to my brothers and me to
play with when he returned from 'Nam. We'd pin 'em on our
t-shirts, break off the delicate little parts or simply end up
losing 'em while horsing around outside with our young
playmates. In other words, they weren't "meaningless junk"
to my brothers and me who had none.

-Mike (the DFC was my fave) Marron

Joey Bishop wrote:

"Tarver Engineering" wrote

What would it take to get you to jump out of an airplane with people on the
ground shooting at you?

A Lt at the back of the platoon with a pistol, who was told to shoot those
who refused to jump. That'd be my standard :-)

Wrong role.

The Lieutenant is the first of out of the airplane. The top
sergeant is the guy at the end of the line with the big boot.

David

Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: "John Smith"
Date: 8/31/03 5:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: .net


"Joey Bishop" wrote in message
. ..
"ArtKramr" wrote

Please list your medals, battle stars and theatre ribbons as well as oak
leaf
clusters and all the missions you have flown. .Try to keep it down to 5
or 6
pages at the most even if you have to leave 40 or 50 missions out..we
all await
your long list anxiously

Won't take that long:

Expeditionary (1) cluster
Air Medal (1) cluster
Aerial Achievement (1) cluster
Kuwait Liberation
Good Conduct

I could scan in my Flight records, but even my measly 5100 hours is
pretty thick with small print. Then there's the 5,000 hours in C-141
cargo status... Now that's what I *demand* a medal for...



You should have tried riding up front. The seats are much more comfortable.



Yeah. Like in the nose of a bomber over Germany protected by 1/4 inch of
Plexiglas.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: "John Smith"
Date: 8/31/03 5:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id: .net


"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: "= Vox Populi ©" Vox Populi ©"

Only meaningless junk to those who have none.
Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer


Well, I have some and I have to agree in part. No they are not junk. The
the military has watered them down by giving them out like candy to a point.

I still respect the Silver Star and above, those seem to have been able to
retain their worthiness. But most medals below that have been given out way
too much to way too many people who didn't earn them.

We got one Air Medal for every 5 combat missions over Germany. And had you
flown those missions with you would realise that every AIr Medal was well
deserves and won the hard way. What about thr poor ******* that got shot down
on his 5th mission and his wife/kids.parebts got the medal aftewr his death.
Was thsat not fsairly won a nd well desrerved? We needed 65 missions to
complete a tour in B-26 Marauders. So guys walking around with 10 or more Air
Medals at a B-26 base was a common sight, And every one was fairly won and well
deserved including the ones won by guys who still lie over there to this day.
Lest we forget our absent friends.
Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote

I'm convinced that nuclear weapons are going to have to be used within
the next few years (China vs Formosa, Korea, and Iran). Does the Lt in
the silo get a Bronze, or a Silver for that?


For what? He hasn't done anything yet. (sheesh)

It's a hypothetical fluffy... Go hit your balls...

Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: "Joey Bishop"
Date: 8/31/03 9:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote

I'm convinced that nuclear weapons are going to have to be used within
the next few years (China vs Formosa, Korea, and Iran). Does the Lt in
the silo get a Bronze, or a Silver for that?


For what? He hasn't done anything yet. (sheesh)

It's a hypothetical fluffy... Go hit your balls...



A thouroughly mindless and vacious hypothetical at best Dumbo. You are a
waste of bandwith.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Great story. It is what this NG was meant to be.


Thanks, Art - not up there with yours or Ed's exploits, but we all did our
part, at whatever level we could.

v/r
Gordon

Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: "Joey Bishop"
Date: 8/31/03 9:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:

"ArtKramr" wrote

I'm convinced that nuclear weapons are going to have to be used within
the next few years (China vs Formosa, Korea, and Iran). Does the Lt in
the silo get a Bronze, or a Silver for that?


For what? He hasn't done anything yet. (sheesh)

It's a hypothetical fluffy... Go hit your balls...



A pretty mindless hypothetical dumbo.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Subject: U$ Military Medals meaningless junk ...!
From: nt (Gordon)
Date: 8/31/03 10:11 AM Pacific Daylight Time
Message-id:


Great story. It is what this NG was meant to be.


Thanks, Art - not up there with yours or Ed's exploits, but we all did our
part, at whatever level we could.

v/r
Gordon

You did what you were trained to do. And did it extremely well. It is what the
military is all about. Wear your decorations with pride. They were well earned.

Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer