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I've been reading some of the FAA documents and am sort of confused about
something. I don't see any requirements for a pilots license when applying for registration and such for a homebuilt. is it implied that you already have a license or is none required? I see talk about reserving your N number then getting inspected, then getting your 25 (or 40) hour permission. note: I am talking about what's required, not what is heavily recommended. |
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"Tater Schuld" wrote in message ... I don't see any requirements for a pilots license when applying for registration and such for a homebuilt. is it implied that you already have a license or is none required? You don't need a pilot's license to own or even build an airplane. Now if you wish to actually fly it... Vaughn |
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"Tater Schuld" wrote: I've been reading some of the FAA documents and am sort of confused about something. I don't see any requirements for a pilots license when applying for registration and such for a homebuilt. is it implied that you already have a license or is none required? I see talk about reserving your N number then getting inspected, then getting your 25 (or 40) hour permission. note: I am talking about what's required, not what is heavily recommended. Tater, did you wake up as a troll again today? I had just started to take you seriously! But I'll bite. Yes, you need a pilot's license, unless the plane is an ultralight. You can own a car, and register it, but you can't drive it without a license. Same with a plane. |
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"Smitty Two" wrote Tater, did you wake up as a troll again today? I had just started to take you seriously! Your bad. When did he not wake up a troll? g But I'll bite. Yes, you need a pilot's license, unless the plane is an ultralight. Yes, to fly the plane, but he asked about registering it. The * plane* gets an OK to fly, along with the required number of hours assigned. A trained monkey can fly it, if he is a certificated pilot. You can own a car, and register it, but you can't drive it without a license. Same with a plane. -- Jim in NC |
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"Tater Schuld" wrote in message ... I've been reading some of the FAA documents and am sort of confused about something. I don't see any requirements for a pilots license when applying for registration and such for a homebuilt. is it implied that you already have a license or is none required? I see talk about reserving your N number then getting inspected, then getting your 25 (or 40) hour permission. note: I am talking about what's required, not what is heavily recommended. ok, I gave a lot of you the incorrect questions. lets see if this makes more sense. in the following documents AC 20-27E AC 20-139 AC 21-12B AC 39-7C AC 65-23A AC 90-89A AC 103-7 Which I picked up at the FAA booth at Oshkosh, bound together as the "Amateur Built Aircraft Reference Manual". I could not find the Pilot licensing requirements. can someone point them out to me? I keep reading through them, but cannot find anywhere that states that a certified pilot is needed to fly the aircraft. maybe I am looking in the wrong set of documents. like I said above, I am talking about what's required, not what is heavily recommended. |
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Earlier, Tater Schuld wrote:
...I keep reading through them, but cannot find anywhere that states that a certified pilot is needed to fly the aircraft. maybe I am looking in the wrong set of documents... The booklets you collected are mostly about building and resistering homebuilt aircraft, not about flying them. Except when they're ultralight, homebuilt airplanes are civil aircraft subject to 14 CFR part 61, 91, and a few others. What you're looking for starts with 14 CFR 61.3: (a) Pilot certificate. A person may not act as pilot in command or in any other capacity as a required pilot flight crewmember of a civil aircraft of U.S. registry, unless that person- (1) Has a valid pilot certificate or special purpose pilot authorization issued under this part in that person's physical possession or readily accessible in the aircraft when exercising the privileges of that pilot certificate or authorization. However, when the aircraft is operated within a foreign country, a current pilot license issued by the country in which the aircraft is operated may be used; and.. You can find all current FARs in the links from this FAA Web site page: http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/ Thanks, and best regards to all Bob K. http://www.hpaircraft.com/hp-24 |
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 10:52:42 -0600, "Tater Schuld" wrote:
I've been reading some of the FAA documents and am sort of confused about something. I don't see any requirements for a pilots license when applying for registration and such for a homebuilt. is it implied that you already have a license or is none required? A pilot license is not required to either build or register an aircraft, whether Normal or Special categories. A pilot license *is* required to operate them. See FAR 61.3. The FAA documents addressing certification and registry of homebuilts do not address pilot qualifications, as that has nothing to do with certification or registering. It's perfectly legal for someone without a pilot's license to build an Experimental Amateur/Built plane, just as it's legal for someone at Boeing to assemble an airliner without a pilot's license. Ron Wanttaja |
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Ron Wanttaja wrote: A pilot license *is* required to operate them. See FAR 61.3. If I build a Flybaby, can I do the first flight and subsequent testing while using my "Sport Pilot" classification? How about a one-off Experimental Category design that is engineered to comply with the Light Sport Aircraft operating limitations? Thanks, Hawkeye Hughes |
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:55:21 -0500, "Morgans" wrote:
"Hawkeye" wrote If I build a Flybaby, can I do the first flight and subsequent testing while using my "Sport Pilot" classification? How about a one-off Experimental Category design that is engineered to comply with the Light Sport Aircraft operating limitations? Thanks, Hawkeye Hughes Yes, and yes. Ditto, and Ditto. :-) If an aircraft meets the Light Sport definition, it can be flown by a Sport Pilot regardless of its certification category. The only issue that might come up is if some FAA'ian wants to dispute whether your one-off Experimental aircraft meets the definition. If it weighs 1,000 pounds, has only 50 sq.ft of wing area, and an IO-540 for power, it's probably likely the plane can't meet either the speed requirements...top OR bottom. But as far as I know, there are no formal procedures for legally establishing whether a unique aircraft (and each Experimental/Amateur Built aircraft, legally, *is* unique) meets the definition. There are certification requirements if the plane is to be *licensed* as Light Sport, but they don't apply if the plane is in some other category. Ron Wanttaja |
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