KCHD to KMYF

Plan to be in the Phoenix area towards the middle of May, enroute to KMYF.

What route would you recommend from the Phoenix area to KMYF ?

RT12 writes:

Plan to be in the Phoenix area towards the middle of May, enroute to KMYF.

What route would you recommend from the Phoenix area to KMYF ?

GBN and V66 westbound. It's about the only economical path that allows you to
sneak between the many restricted areas west of Phoenix.

Mxsmanic wrote:

RT12 writes:

Plan to be in the Phoenix area towards the middle of May, enroute to
KMYF.

What route would you recommend from the Phoenix area to KMYF ?

GBN and V66 westbound. It's about the only economical path that allows
you to sneak between the many restricted areas west of Phoenix.

Yes, that's pretty much the route. There's quite a bit of military traffic around GBN (F-16's from Luke
AFB) and also around Yuma so going IFR or flight following if VFR is a good idea. The last time I made
that trip, it was hazy VFR and they gave me the ILS approach into KMYF. Gibbs Flying Service is a great
FBO. Have a good trip.

Mike

O.P. did not state whether VFR or IFR, did not indicate a preference to fly
airways or whether he wished to avoid special use airspace. He could file
direct (or just fly) after checking airspace status.



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Mxsmanic wrote:

RT12 writes:

Plan to be in the Phoenix area towards the middle of May, enroute to
KMYF.

What route would you recommend from the Phoenix area to KMYF ?

GBN and V66 westbound. It's about the only economical path that allows
you to sneak between the many restricted areas west of Phoenix.

Yes, that's pretty much the route. There's quite a bit of military traffic
around GBN (F-16's from Luke
AFB) and also around Yuma so going IFR or flight following if VFR is a good
idea. The last time I made
that trip, it was hazy VFR and they gave me the ILS approach into KMYF. Gibbs
Flying Service is a great
FBO. Have a good trip.

Mike

VOR-DME writes:

O.P. did not state whether VFR or IFR, did not indicate a preference to fly
airways or whether he wished to avoid special use airspace. He could file
direct (or just fly) after checking airspace status.

Direct might be a challenge, since KPHX-KMYF direct would take him through
half a dozen restricted areas, some of which are continuously active and
extend to 80,000 feet MSL (missile firing ranges). V66 is a corridor that
passes between the restricted areas (in fact, it looks like the restricted
areas and airway were deliberately designed that way), and it's only 10 nm
longer than a direct route (a 4% increase).

The Great American West is filled with wide open spaces, but unfortunately the
U.S. military has confiscated many of them, especially in the desert
southwest.

MX knows quite a bit about aviation from a "theoretical" standpoint, but
because he does not actually practice any of it, he doesn't know how it
works. I would not add even 10nm to my route simply out of fear of making a
radio call. I will file, or just fly what works for me, and not go out of my
way unless I have to. Nine times out of ten they give you what you ask for,
exception being the busy Northeast.

MX cannot offer any real insight or advice on flying, not only because he
does not fly, but because he is terrified of airplanes and actual flying.



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Direct might be a challenge, since KPHX-KMYF direct would take him through
half a dozen restricted areas, some of which are continuously active and
extend to 80,000 feet MSL (missile firing ranges). V66 is a corridor that
passes between the restricted areas (in fact, it looks like the restricted
areas and airway were deliberately designed that way), and it's only 10 nm
longer than a direct route (a 4% increase).

The Great American West is filled with wide open spaces, but unfortunately
the
U.S. military has confiscated many of them, especially in the desert
southwest.