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the DC-3
Kevin Clarke wrote:
Not the plane, the airports. The Washington DC area airports KCGS, KVKX and W32 operate with additional security requirements as specified under SFAR 94. I was going through those requirements to understand what I have to do to land at CGS. I'm not really asking about that, I'll go through that journey and report back. It looks to be a real pain and seems to be another manifestation of pointless bureaucracy from the Department of Homemade Security. The real point of this post is how silly the additional security procedures are and how they are left in place to provide the appearance of additional security without actually delivering on that promise. I just drove my daughter down to school. She starts college in DC next week, a sure sign of my aging. Beyond the emotional trauma of that life milestone, I had to wonder what that flight would be like. So I did my flight planning only to come across this SFAR 94 restriction. I'd much rather fly the 320 or so miles than transit the NJ Turnpike ever again. But this time I had to drive. After going through the area on route 95 just past College Park you really get an appreciation for how pointless it is to single out light aircraft in these restrictions. Nothing big is getting in or out of CGS, it is only 2600' of runway. So this SFAR is really directed at the small, light aircraft flown by the GA community. As I was driving along on the bottom of the ADIZ I couldn't help to think how silly it is, as giant semis hauling heaven knows what whizzed along without restriction hurtling within miles of downtown DC. It is all so silly. KC The hoops you have to jump thru to get "vetted" for CGS and the others are stupid, but not impossible. I did it in a day, first going to IAD for a "records check" by the FSDO, then to DCA for fingerprinting, then to CGS to view a ridiculous video that teaches nothing. Any way a week later I got my PIN number and can go anytime now, although I haven't yet. |
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("Jay Beckman" wrote)
Sedona gets an extra vote simply because the scenery around it is worth seeing from the air as well. http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55296514 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301883 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301237 Three views of Sedona from the air... http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55302088 Blue dots? I like this one: http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/71684986 "Taking Off From Sedona" Paul-Mont |
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On Aug 20, 10:20 am, "Montblack" Y4_NOT!...
wrote: ("Jay Beckman" wrote) Sedona gets an extra vote simply because the scenery around it is worth seeing from the air as well. http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55296514 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301883 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301237 Three views of Sedona from the air... http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55302088 Blue dots? I like this one: http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/71684986 "Taking Off From Sedona" Paul-Mont I think the dots are simply meant as painted "grass"...designates the corners of the ramp area. They have similar (but much larger) areas between taxiways at Sky Harbor in Phoenix. Much cheaper than trying to grow the real thing out here in the desert. Jay B |
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On Aug 19, 6:05 pm, Kevin Clarke wrote:
Not the plane, the airports. The Washington DC area airports KCGS, KVKX and W32 operate with additional security requirements as specified under SFAR 94. I was going through those requirements to understand what I have to do to land at CGS. I'm not really asking about that, I'll go through that journey and report back. It looks to be a real pain and seems to be another manifestation of pointless bureaucracy from the Department of Homemade Security. The real point of this post is how silly the additional security procedures are and how they are left in place to provide the appearance of additional security without actually delivering on that promise. I just drove my daughter down to school. She starts college in DC next week, a sure sign of my aging. Beyond the emotional trauma of that life milestone, I had to wonder what that flight would be like. So I did my flight planning only to come across this SFAR 94 restriction. I'd much rather fly the 320 or so miles than transit the NJ Turnpike ever again. But this time I had to drive. After going through the area on route 95 just past College Park you really get an appreciation for how pointless it is to single out light aircraft in these restrictions. Nothing big is getting in or out of CGS, it is only 2600' of runway. So this SFAR is really directed at the small, light aircraft flown by the GA community. As I was driving along on the bottom of the ADIZ I couldn't help to think how silly it is, as giant semis hauling heaven knows what whizzed along without restriction hurtling within miles of downtown DC. It is all so silly. KC Boy I sure am glad I live out west instead of in Vichy America (DC area)... Dean |
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Friedrich Ostertag wrote:
Kevin Clarke wrote: I was not a pilot on 9/11/01 so I wasn't in the community when this stupidity went into effect. Why aren't people screaming about this? .. aviation content: I will be travelling through Nevada/Arizona/Utah in September (by Car/Campervan), and would like to do a sightseeing flight or two over the spectacular scenery there (as a passenger). I guess there must be quite a few businesses offering such flights. I know there is a number of companies offering flights over Grand Canyon. Would anyone recommend a particular business, that does such flights? Any particular flight? What should I look for? What should I avoid? regards, Friedrich I did this a number of years ago. They all looked about the same to me. When I bought my ride I mentioned I was a pilot and would like the right seat if W&B allowed. I was given the right seat and it was great. The pilot was the only other person on the flight who spoke english so there wasn't much chit-chat (at least not any I could understand). Margy |
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Jay Beckman wrote:
If you are going to be in either Sedona, AZ or anywhere near Las Vegas, NV you can book scenic flights to the GC from either town. Sedona gets an extra vote simply because the scenery around it is worth seeing from the air as well. http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55296514 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301883 http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/image/55301237 Three views of Sedona from the air... Hope you enjoy your visit! awesome pictures! Probably our trip won't take us as fas south as sedona, but I will keep it in mind. I intend to spend some time around Escalante and Capitol Reef NP and also Canyonlands NP. thanks, Friedrich |
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