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Old November 11th 08, 07:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
kd6veb
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

Hi Gang
Occasionally one finds a good read on a subject that many of us are
interested in, namely soaring. Well the Government funded in the 50s
the development of a new spy plane - a motorglider - named the U2. The
specifications of this machine included operation up to 80,000 feet at
80% the speed of sound so that no fighter could approach it and shoot
it down and no fighter has ever shot one done. The U2 was probably
the best spy plane ever until shot down by a SAM. On that day the
Russians not only shot down Gary Powers in a U2 but also one of their
own MIG19s tailing Powers 25,0000 feet below with a barrage of SAMs.
The flying characteristics of the U2 were unlike anything the
Military had been experienced to. To achieve the low weight to get
high it was built much less strongly than any other military aircraft
and was (and is) super fragile. At altitude it has a 5 knot window of
operation. Too fast it would flutter and break up and too slow it
would stall and if not corrected immediately would go into an
unrecoverable flat spin. So only the top fighter pilots were assigned
to U2s. Think about this you pilots! To fly a U2 for several hours at
65,000 feet initially and then as the fuel burned off 80,000 feet in
an uncomfortable space suit the pilot would have to maintain a speed
plus or minus 2.5 knots IAS. Obviously the mortality rate for U2
pilots was high. The plane had initially all kinds of engine problems
with flameout at altitude. The pilot then had to push the nose down
and go to a lower altitude without going outside the 5 knot window of
operation and attempt an engine restart that sometimes was possible
and at other times not. On one flight the U2 glided over 300 nautical
miles after engine failure from altitude and landed safely. And, by
the way, this was at speeds of up to 400 knot per hour. So that would
suggest an average L/D of about 25 from an altitude of 60,000 feet.
Not bad!
OK no more juicy bits of info from the book. The book is written well
and includes almost everything about the U2 since all information on
U2 is now declassified. I found the book to be a super read and an
easy read. Just order yourselves a copy for that long cold miserable
winter's day when you have nothing else to do. You won't be
disappointed.
Dave

"Spyplane the U2 History Declassified"
by Norman Polmar
Publisher: MBI Publishing Co
729 Prospect Avenue
PO Box 1, Osceola, WI 54020
www.motorbooks.com
1-800-826-6600
(Price I paid $21.95)
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Old November 12th 08, 08:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
rlovinggood
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

"...400 knot per hour..."

Is that 400 nautical miles per hour squared?

Reading that is as painful as hearing fingernails on a blackboard...


Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA
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Old November 12th 08, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Craig[_2_]
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

On Nov 12, 12:15*pm, rlovinggood wrote:
"...400 knot per hour..."

Is that 400 nautical miles per hour squared?

Reading that is as painful as hearing fingernails on a blackboard...

Ray Lovinggood
Carrboro, North Carolina, USA


Nah.. The one that drives me over the edge is nuculur (phonetic
spelling) when nuclear is what was meant.

Craig Funston
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Old November 12th 08, 10:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

On Nov 12, 12:38*pm, Craig wrote:
Nah.. *The one that drives me over the edge is nuculur (phonetic
spelling) when nuclear is what was meant.

Craig Funston


Craig -

The correct spelling is "n-u-c-u-l-a-r". Or, "f-e-a-r--a-n-d--i-g-n-o-
r-a-n-c-e" here in the USA. :-P

Apologies for the tangent, all - but it goes beyond fingernails on a
chalkboard for me... I look forward to reading (yet another)
interesting book about the U-2!

--Noel
(who has a Nuclear Engineer for a Dad - one who has a full head of
hair and doesn't glow in the dark; despite working at a power plant
for 30+ years AND being on Nuclear Submarines for a few years before
that)

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Old November 13th 08, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:15:09 -0800 (PST), rlovinggood
wrote:

"...400 knot per hour..."

Is that 400 nautical miles per hour squared?

Reading that is as painful as hearing fingernails on a blackboard...


It gets worse...a recent contestant on "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth
Grader" was asked "How many watts are there in a kilowatt-hour?"

rj
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Old November 13th 08, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Jim Logajan
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

rlovinggood wrote:
"...400 knot per hour..."

Is that 400 nautical miles per hour squared?


No, that'd be 400 knots per knot. A knot per hour has units of an
acceleration.

Reading that is as painful as hearing fingernails on a blackboard...


I hate when people in a knotty situation get naughty and post Youtube links
like this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfRC8fmAaII

What's not to like?
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Old November 13th 08, 01:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Kemp[_2_]
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

But what about the ORIGINAL super motorglider, the Messerschmitt Me
163 Komet! The brochure might read:
- Super climb rate (3.5 kilometers per minute) gets you to 40,000 feet
in 3 minutes.
- High Vne (700 mph (1,100 km/h)), great for those Andes or Sierra
wave days
- Tough (cannons extra)

OH, fuel might be scarce. And occasionally it blew up. C'mon, there
are always tradeoffs.........

Kemp
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Old November 13th 08, 12:00 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Simon Taylor[_2_]
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

At 00:00 13 November 2008, Ralph Jones wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 12:15:09 -0800 (PST), rlovinggood
wrote:

"...400 knot per hour..."

Is that 400 nautical miles per hour squared?

Reading that is as painful as hearing fingernails on a blackboard...


It gets worse...a recent contestant on "Are You Smarter Than A Fifth
Grader" was asked "How many watts are there in a kilowatt-hour?"

rj


My favourite was a Channel 5 documentary (Channel 5 is a low-budget
channel in the UK, usually buying in overseas documentaries and
overdubbing them with a bored-sounding Briton) trying to underline the
professional qualities of a Martin Baker engineer:

'To this man, one second is a thousand microseconds.'

Hopefully they don't put him to work on any vital delay mechanisms...
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Old November 13th 08, 01:30 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Steve Leonard[_2_]
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Default Verbal Oops (was Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider)

Knot per hour, phooey. Nuculur, idiots. The one that bugs me big is all
the people talking about a lack of rainfall as a drow-th. It is a
d-r-o-u-g-h-t. Maybe those people have troubles forming their own
thaw-ths? :-)

Steve
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Old November 13th 08, 02:15 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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Default Review: New book on the U2 super motorglider

At 20:38 12 November 2008, Craig wrote:

Nah.. The one that drives me over the edge is nuculur (phonetic
spelling) when nuclear is what was meant.


The last eight years must have been tough on you. I think
we've got it fixed now.

Jim Beckman

 




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