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Old April 22nd 04, 03:05 PM
Jay Honeck
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Default Cirrus attracting pilots with 'The Wrong Stuff'?

There's been some discussion here about Cirrus' less-than-stellar safety
record. Someone mentioned that perhaps the Cirrus line, with all of its
whiz-bang electronics and slippery airframe, is attracting the "wrong" kind
of pilots -- meaning, perhaps, too much cash and not enough sense?

I've always heard this same thing said about the Bonanza (the "Fork-tailed
doctor killer") -- but recent accident stats for the Bo don't appear to bear
this out.

Two data points that don't mean much: The only two guys I have personally
known to have bought a Cirrus PRECISELY fit this description. Both guys
have tons of money, not enough free time to stay current, and fly
complicated, long-distance flights on the rare occasions they fly at all.

What's the group-think on this one? Is Cirrus just good at attracting
crappy pilots? Or is there something else at work here?
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Old April 22nd 04, 03:16 PM
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In article OiQhc.2643$aQ6.415323@attbi_s51, Jay Honeck
wrote:

What's the group-think on this one? Is Cirrus just good at attracting
crappy pilots? Or is there something else at work here?


Can we change the question to "Nominees for the Darwin Award"?
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Old April 22nd 04, 03:28 PM
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I am not at liberty to answer you because I know some Cirrus pilots myself.
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Old April 22nd 04, 09:51 PM
Tom Sixkiller
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"Roger Long" om wrote in
message ...
I am not at liberty to answer you because I know some Cirrus pilots

myself.
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Uh huh, "But some of my best friends are Cirrus pilots!" :~)



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Old April 23rd 04, 04:33 AM
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Roger Long wrote:

I am not at liberty to answer you because I know some Cirrus pilots myself.


And I'm not qualified to venture an opinion 'cause I don't know any.

George Patterson
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play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".
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Old April 23rd 04, 12:50 PM
Jay Honeck
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I am not at liberty to answer you because I know some Cirrus pilots
myself.

That pretty much says it all, Roger.

:-)
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Old April 22nd 04, 03:42 PM
Michael 182
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I haven't flown a Cirrus, ;( , so I can't speak to the flying
characteristics. But the flight characteristics offered by "Toly":

"but in the air the plane is very slippery and feels like it's skating on
ice, only in three dimensions"

sounds like a recipe for disaster, especially for a pilot that is rusty. One
of the things I really like about my TR182 is that it like flying a rock.
Yes, it is boring, and I have thought lately about trading it in for a fun
airplane like a Maule or Citabria - but, in it's defense, when I haven't
flown for a while it is incredibly forgiving of imperfect piloting.

Michael

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There's been some discussion here about Cirrus' less-than-stellar safety
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Old April 22nd 04, 04:05 PM
Thomas Borchert
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Michael,

"but in the air the plane is very slippery and feels like it's skating on
ice, only in three dimensions"


That's just, well, sorry, BS, IMHO. The Cirrus is one of the best flying
planes I have flown. It tops the Bonanza. Notice that Toly compares it to
flying Pipers and such. Well, it definitely doesn't fly like a spam can.
That's great!

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Old April 22nd 04, 04:12 PM
Nathan Young
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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 14:42:07 GMT, "Michael 182"
wrote:

I haven't flown a Cirrus, ;( , so I can't speak to the flying
characteristics. But the flight characteristics offered by "Toly":

"but in the air the plane is very slippery and feels like it's skating on
ice, only in three dimensions"


This description is crap. I fly a Cherokee 180, and got my first time
in a Cirrus 2 weeks ago. The handling is a bit sportier than my
Cherokee, but is by no means uncontrollable. It took me all of 5
minutes to get used to it.

-Nathan


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Old April 23rd 04, 08:17 AM
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Nathan,

fully agree.

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