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1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale



 
 
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Old February 18th 06, 03:30 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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Wrong!


Lean of peak horsepower =14.9 x fuel flow

Lean of peak ONLY and it's not % but straight hp

Karl
"Curator" N185KG

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Old February 18th 06, 08:04 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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"karl gruber" wrote in message
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Wrong!


Lean of peak horsepower =14.9 x fuel flow

Lean of peak ONLY and it's not % but straight hp

What Temp LOP?

There's a wide berth.

And what's you calculation?


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Old February 18th 06, 09:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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How did you find the 3 bladed prop to perform. Many in the Mooney
community seem to believe the 3 blade prop reduces cruise speed by
about 5 knots.


I believe that's only for the four cylinder models. The six cylinder
ones (as is Vince's 231) do not suffer any loss of cruise speed.
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Old February 19th 06, 08:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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"Doug" wrote in message
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You genearlly need 300 horse to see an improvement in performance with
a 3 blade prop.

Really?


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Old February 19th 06, 09:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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"Ken Reed" wrote in message
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How did you find the 3 bladed prop to perform. Many in the Mooney
community seem to believe the 3 blade prop reduces cruise speed by
about 5 knots.


I believe that's only for the four cylinder models. The six cylinder ones
(as is Vince's 231) do not suffer any loss of cruise speed.

AIUI, the earlier three blade props were not optimal for higher
HP/displacement engines...not like he current stable.

Also, you could run higher RPMs with a three blade that, with a two blade
prop, would could unsuitable noise and vibration.



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Old February 20th 06, 03:04 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:


How did you find the 3 bladed prop to perform. Many in the Mooney
community seem to believe the 3 blade prop reduces cruise speed by
about 5 knots.


Supposedly a myth.

Members of Cardinal Flyers have reported cruise speed losses after
conversion to 3-blades. Some have reported ROC improvements and less
noise. The consensus runs against the conversion being worth it.

Since "consensus" is a political term, rather than a scientific term, I'd be
more impressed by real test data rather than subjective opinions :~)


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Old February 23rd 06, 10:48 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation
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Default 1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale

If you're too ashamed to post asking price and location, don't even
bother posting.



Vince wrote:

I have a 1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale. 2483 TTSN, 1415 SFRM. Dual Garmin
430s.

Please see http://www.madness.net/n57568 for specifications and tons of
pictures, and email me directly with any questions. Thanks for looking!

Vince

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Old February 25th 06, 12:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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One main advantage of more blades is that you can use more power for
the same prop diameter and construction. Each blade handles a portion
of the total thrust-power. In a two blade there is about 0.5/0.333 - 1
== 50% more stress per blade due to thrust - for same engine power.

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Old February 25th 06, 01:25 AM posted to rec.aviation.owning
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-----Original Message-----
From: abripl ]
Posted At: Friday, February 24, 2006 6:09 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: 1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale
Subject: 1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale

One main advantage of more blades is that you can use more power for
the same prop diameter and construction. Each blade handles a portion
of the total thrust-power. In a two blade there is about 0.5/0.333 - 1
== 50% more stress per blade due to thrust - for same engine power.

[Jim Carter]
Isn't one feature of the 3 blade prop a smaller diameter that provides
better ground clearance?

And are you really using more power? Isn't number of blades related to
torque applied to the crankshaft? The engine doesn't change power output
based on the number of blades its swinging does it?

I know that smaller diameters tend to mean lower tip velocity and less
noise for the same amount of torque, but I've never heard more blades
means more power used before. But then, I could be wrong...it wouldn't
be the first time and it probably won't be the last.

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Old March 10th 06, 04:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.marketplace,rec.aviation.owning
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Default 1984 Mooney M20K 231 for sale

Asking price is $149k, located at ISP, NY. Offers of course are welcome.

 




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