We Are All Spaniards

"S Green" wrote in message
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After all were not the founding fathers terrorists seeking to overthrow
the
legitimate government?



Seeking to overthrow the legitimate government? Yes. Terrorists? No.

I bet the British at the time would have disagreed with you. I am certain
they believed the American rebels / freedom fighters were terrorists.

Just as they believed that the Israeli freedom fighters were terrorists
in 1948.

Just as the they believe the IRA are terrorists...

Basically, when history finds a band of rebels or oppressed people who
fought their way to freedom, they war is called a War of Independence.

When they were suppressed, the war is called a rebellion, an uprising, or
a failed coup-de-tat...

The biggest difference that I can see is that the war for American
Independence took place in America. The war for Israeli independence took
place in Israel. The war for Irish independence takes place in Ireland.
The war for Indian independence took place in India.

The modern-day Arab terrorists hide in the corners of Islamic nations
like Iraq, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and Afghanistan and attack countries like
Israel, America, and Spain.

Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the agenda
of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and control of
their own countries...

Or, worse yet, perhaps the AGENDA is pretty clear, but the coutries they
are fighting for control of are not...



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"S Green" wrote in message
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After all were not the founding fathers terrorists seeking to
overthrow the legitimate government?



Seeking to overthrow the legitimate government? Yes. Terrorists? No.

"Judah" wrote in message
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Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the agenda
of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and control of
their own countries...

Or, worse yet, perhaps the AGENDA is pretty clear, but the coutries they
are fighting for control of are not...

It has always struck me as the ultimate in obnoxiousness to claim that
fighting for democracy and the rule of law is somehow morally equivalent to
deliberately attacking non-combatants in an attempt to impose totalitarian
rule.

I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans, their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.

If we sit back and wait for it to happen, we will be written off in history
as the once great, but now fallen American Imperialist Empire.


"C J Campbell" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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Perhaps the agenda of modern-day terrorists is not as clear as the
agenda of the Independence fighters who fought for independence and
control of their own countries...

Or, worse yet, perhaps the AGENDA is pretty clear, but the coutries
they are fighting for control of are not...

It has always struck me as the ultimate in obnoxiousness to claim that
fighting for democracy and the rule of law is somehow morally
equivalent to deliberately attacking non-combatants in an attempt to
impose totalitarian rule.

"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans,
their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.


Where is Islam being opressed by a western nation?

In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel
America - it supported Israel
Spain - it supported America

and the list goes on. Remember - the history books I am talking about were
(or will have been) written in the new Arabic Empire...

"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and
history. If the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in
their plans, their own history books will write it off as the Great
War for Islamic Independence during which their freedom fighters
performed attack after attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were
finally conquered.


Where is Islam being opressed by a western nation?

"Judah" wrote in message
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In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel
America - it supported Israel
Spain - it supported America

The Uk gave the land to Israel following a war with Jewish terrorists.
People like Golda Meyer, Begin were all terrorists(freedomfighters).

"Judah" wrote in message
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In the eyes of Radical Islamists?


In reality.

Judah wrote in message . ..

In the eyes of Radical Islamists? Are you kidding?

Israel - it exists
UK - it gave the land to Israel


How much land did the UK give to the Arabs?

"Judah" wrote in message
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I wasn't talking about morals. I was talking about reality and history. If
the Arab nations who sponsor these terrorists succeed in their plans,
their
own history books will write it off as the Great War for Islamic
Independence during which their freedom fighters performed attack after
attack until the Imperialist Oppressors were finally conquered.

If we sit back and wait for it to happen, we will be written off in
history
as the once great, but now fallen American Imperialist Empire.

And if we win we will be the bringers of light and freedom to the world.
The winner always writes the history so what